Members unichord Posted January 10, 2006 Members Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dark Side of the Moon - of course.... The old Soundman talks about Rammstein - I've never heard of them...... What else is working for you - to set up the PA before the gig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 10, 2006 Members Share Posted January 10, 2006 Flim & the BB'sDave GrusinSteely DanKate Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ear Abuser Posted January 10, 2006 Members Share Posted January 10, 2006 Anyone have a favorite spoken word recording for testing purposes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members milesdf Posted January 10, 2006 Members Share Posted January 10, 2006 Illuminations: Reflections of Earth. Its fireworks music from disney world, has high dynamic and frequency ranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashivraj Posted January 10, 2006 Members Share Posted January 10, 2006 Originally posted by Ear Abuser Anyone have a favorite spoken word recording for testing purposes? Just nick an mp3 off any Southern Baptist church website - or a televangelist for that matter Plenty of dynamic range there! AS PS - I am a Bible-bashing Christian myself, so no offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ear Abuser Posted January 10, 2006 Members Share Posted January 10, 2006 I was hoping someone would suggest a good clean (PG), well recorded comedy recording. I actually downloaded some Bob Newhart stuff once but the audio quality was pretty marginal. I'm looking for something to use as source material while walking the room to test for intelligibility.Come to think of it, some of that televangelist stuff would qualify as comedy......and if your system makes that stuff intelligible, it' s probably working miracles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted January 10, 2006 Members Share Posted January 10, 2006 Generally I will listen to whatever I've been working on in the studio, as I'm the most familiar with that. Otherwise, I'm more of a noise guy, and I'll spend time running analysis over music listening. I'm also a big fan of using my old Turbosound phase testers generator for analysis as well, it is very helpful in setting delay times, and for determining RT60 time. I'll often feed it to the stage and have the ME send it through the wedges as well. This works particularly well for lower level shows, where much of the stage volume is part of the house sound. I'll set a wedge where I think the middle point of the acoustic band will be centered, run the phase click through that(pointing toward the house) and then time align the system with that, starting with the closest speakers to the stage and moving out. Once I've got the rig fairly dialed in, I'll toss on whatever suites my fancy to walk the room. Often times it is far removed from the genre of music that will be the flavor of the night, such as classical for a rock show, country for jazz, etc. However I tend to pick music that is not overly produced, ie, not alot of effects, especially reverb. Older AC/DC comes to mind.... A big key is watching spl levels, and eqing at the levels you intend to mix at. For spoken word, I've got tons of VO stuff that I've recorded to choose from, both male and female, that I keep on my Ipod for just this purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audioeast Posted January 10, 2006 Members Share Posted January 10, 2006 i like to listen to somthing im familiar with, that is close to the type of music that is being performed. my prefrences being....stealy dan, supertramp, dave mathews, jellyfish, don henly, floyd, im not picky as long it is mixed well, and i know what is supposed to sound like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kennykeys Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Playing "The Nightfly" by Donald Fagen is banned in some venues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dan Magers Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Depends on the genre of the particular gig. I do a lot of singer/songwriter acoustic stuff. Where accuracy over spl is important so, I will usually try some female vocals.Paula Cole, Norah Jones or, something I have recorded and familiar with. Stealy Dan, Dave Mathews...good. Rammstien...humm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unichord Posted January 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Originally posted by Dan Magers Rammstien...humm. You've heard of them? I can't tell if the Old Soundman is serious or sarcastic sometimes - his advice is usually dead-on. I'm trying to find Rammstein - no luck so far...... Sorta related to the original question - How do you guys EQ the FOH with the CD's you mentioned? RTA? Ear? SMAART? Or other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rickkreuzer Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 My test music is: Norah Jones "Nearness of you" and "Don't know why"Maroon 5's "Rag Doll" (great sub song)Dave Matthews "Digging a Ditch"Keith Urban "Memories of us"Toby Keith "Sweet"Buddy Rich & Maynard Ferguson's "Caravan" -- still a crowd favorite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IsildursBane Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Originally posted by unichord You've heard of them? I can't tell if the Old Soundman is serious or sarcastic sometimes - his advice is usually dead-on. I'm trying to find Rammstein - no luck so far...... Sorta related to the original question - How do you guys EQ the FOH with the CD's you mentioned? RTA? Ear? SMAART? Or other? Pick up a copy of the Lost Highway soundtrack. It's got a couple Rammstein tunes pluss a bunch of other stuff that is sure to raise a few eyebrows. -Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pro1-54 Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 I have good luck with Fiona Apple's 'Criminal'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Ice Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Originally posted by unichord The old Soundman talks about Rammstein - I've never heard of them...... Rammstein! Haha!Links, du drei veir! Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unichord Posted January 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Originally posted by IsildursBane Pick up a copy of the Lost Highway soundtrack. It's got a couple Rammstein tunes pluss a bunch of other stuff that is sure to raise a few eyebrows. -Dan. Just purchased Reise, Reise by Rammstein.....raise a few eyebrows is right! As usual the Old Soundman is dead on with his advice. HUGE low end - great drum mix - very present vocals, acoustic guitars, synth, vocal chorus, metal guitar (recto) - lots of spoken word as well. All in German - so I have little idea what they're saying - Sonically reminds me of a cross between Pink Floyd, Gustav Mahler and White Zombie. Very intense. I like it Great for dialing in the drums....might not work so well at a wedding or company party though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DDAY Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 I put in switchblade symphony all kinds of highs and lows and wierd sounding stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stingray5 Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Originally posted by Audioeast i like to listen to somthing im familiar with, that is close to the type of music that is being performed. my prefrences being....stealy dan, supertramp, dave mathews, jellyfish, don henly, floyd, im not picky as long it is mixed well, and i know what is supposed to sound like. Have to admit you got good taste, just worked out the bass line on Josie, which was not one of the easiest, but lots of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasps Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 Originally posted by ashivraj Just nick an mp3 off any Southern Baptist church website - or a televangelist for that matter Plenty of dynamic range there! AS PS - I am a Bible-bashing Christian myself, so no offense... I work for a Southern Baptist Church... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audioeast Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 Originally posted by Stingray5 Have to admit you got good taste, just worked out the bass line on Josie, which was not one of the easiest, but lots of fun. my kids would dissagree...... that is a whoppin Bass line ........dont you lose that number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DunedinDoug Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 Put the audience in a good mood. Go Beach Boys! Pretty soon everyone is singing along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fantasticsound Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 Toy Matinee - Toy Matinee Freddie Jones Band - Take The Time 4Him - The Message This is, of course, after dialing in the system. Once I'm happy with it, I put in something by the artist or in the same genre, depending on whether it's private or if the prospective audience can hear the system from nearby. Tour Managers and artists generally don't want you playing music through the system that the band will be playing in the show. I have a trance CD that was one of a few used to make "flower" centerpieces for a record company, corporate event I worked, in which the flowers were two CD's glued back to back. They were all bad CD's the label had extras of. But I took a few home to listen to and, at least, came away with the trance CD with a lot of low end to really challenge systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IsildursBane Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 Originally posted by fantasticsound This is, of course, after dialing in the system. Once I'm happy with it, I put in something by the artist or in the same genre, depending on whether it's private or if the prospective audience can hear the system from nearby. Tour Managers and artists generally don't want you playing music through the system that the band will be playing in the show. When I saw Trans-Siberian Orchestra just after Christmas, they had the same 3 TSO songs on repeat/loop before the show. -Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fantasticsound Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 There's no accounting for groups doing that. Most times they want the audience to salivate to hear their favorite tunes. The last thing you want to do in that situation is play those tunes just before the concert. Especially if the artist/band only has one or two albums released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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