Members pcolch Posted February 2, 2006 Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'm in a 4 piece rock band playing 1000-4000 seat theaters. The band is considering the Shure PSM 600 wireles monitor system. My understanding is that you can get multiple mixes with one transmitter and 4 belt pack receivers. Is this so? Whether we use 4 different mixes or just 1 mix for the entire band, is there any downside to sharing one transmitter? Would we be better off with 4 separate transmitters? Why?Thanks~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members milesdf Posted February 2, 2006 Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 i think you are confusing transmitters and receivers. everyone has there own reciever which they wear on there belt and has earbuds. you have a choice of whether or not to source all 4 recievers from one mix from one transmitter, or what most people do is have seperate mixes with seperate transmitters. if your playing for alot of people its probablly a better idea to have customized mixes for each of your players, and probablly an even better plan to have a seperate monitor mixing rig so you can fine tune your individual settings and leave them that way. i think one of the major factors is budget though, what are we talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pcolch Posted February 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 Thank you! You are quite right. I have corrected my original question. Thanks for the advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted February 2, 2006 Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 Whether we use 4 different mixes or just 1 mix for the entire band, is there any downside to sharing one transmitter? Would we be better off with 4 separate transmitters? You can't have more than one mix with only one transmitter. In order for each musician to have their own mix (highly recommended) you need 4 transmitters and 4 receivers fed by 4 separate mixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members milesdf Posted February 2, 2006 Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 still no budget though? with the 600 series you could probablly do 1 transmitter and 4 receivers for 3000, you should probablly buy an extra reciever for backup though. individual sets will run around 4.5K, a full blown monitor rig with a splitter, mixer, rack will run about 6K. think about upgrading ear buds on any of those choices. the advantage to having individual mixers is that each of you can get what you really want to hear on stage. the bassist probablly doesn't want an extreme amount of vocals in his monitors but wants pronounced bass and drums. the vocalist wants a whole bunch of himself in the mix but less of everything else. it's alot harder, actually almost impossible to make everyone happy with one mix. another choice is to use a mix of iems and wedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pcolch Posted February 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 Thanks for the responce. I was under the impression that a full PSM 600 set up ran about $1600 new. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 2, 2006 CMS Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Originally posted by pcolch Thanks for the responce. I was under the impression that a full PSM 600 set up ran about $1600 new. Am I missing something? A PSM600 transmitter, beltpack and E-3's is $1,299 at the first hit I found, Musician's Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members milesdf Posted February 2, 2006 Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 slighlty more than 1K at http://audioeast.com . you still havent given us your budget or whether or not you are looking to feed from the board or from your own gear. do you have a dedicated sound guy or are the theaters providing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnnyGraphic Posted February 2, 2006 Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 Originally posted by where02190 You can't have more than one mix with only one transmitter. In order for each musician to have their own mix (highly recommended) you need 4 transmitters and 4 receivers fed by 4 separate mixes. Actually, with the PSM600 which has MixMode, you can get 2 different mixes from one transmitter and 2 receivers. Set one mix for Left and the other mix Right (Aux 1 & Aux2). Set your transmitter on "Stereo/MixMode". Set your beltpacks to "MixMode" using the dip switches located inside the battery compartment. Pan the MixMode dial on the outside of the beltpack hard Left for Aux 1 and hard Right for Aux 2. Using MixMode, you will get either mix in both ears, not just in the left or right earbud. If you check out eBay, PSM600 systems are going for about $600-700. Just make sure you know which frequency you're bidding on. Or, check out Northern Sound for excellent pricing on new. Hope this helps! Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pcolch Posted February 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 why is the frequency important? Do I just need to be sure that the transmitter and receiver frequency are the same or is there something more to lookout for with frequencies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnnyGraphic Posted February 2, 2006 Members Share Posted February 2, 2006 Originally posted by pcolch why is the frequency important? Do I just need to be sure that the transmitter and receiver frequency are the same or is there something more to lookout for with frequencies? The transmitter sends out the mix at a specific frequency. The receiver gets the mix at that same frequency. You can't mix and match transmitters/receivers on different frequencies. It is similar to a radio. Your radio has to 'tune in' on the specific frequency that the station is transmitting on. For the PSM 600 series, the frequencies are listed as a letter code. "HA, HB, HC" etc. So, when you're shopping, make sure you have a matched set of receivers to transmitters. HOWEVER, you CANNOT have more than one transmitter on the same frequency! Hope this helps! Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zkaudio Posted February 3, 2006 Members Share Posted February 3, 2006 throw a nice compressor in your inear rig... helps a TON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fladrummer1 Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 www.hearyourself.com dual driver C2's w shure wireless! its great...crystal clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted February 17, 2007 Moderators Share Posted February 17, 2007 You can't have more than one mix with only one transmitter. In order for each musician to have their own mix (highly recommended) you need 4 transmitters and 4 receivers fed by 4 separate mixes. Incorrect. If I'm not mistaken, the PSM 600s operate in stereo or MixMode just as the PSM400 systems (that I use) do. Therefore, you can use each transmitter to send two mono mixes or one "more me" mix where the performer can mix one selected vocal or instrument up or down using their own belt pack. Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted February 22, 2007 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2007 www.filamentaudio.com usually has good prices for IEMs. They drop ship, so you get your stuff straight from Shure pretty promptly. EDIT: I see their website is currently down. Maybe their prices were a little too good... Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andier Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I'm a little confused here... will anyone show me a flow chart ?~ for a 4 piece band using separate mixers and transmitters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 Not seperate mixERS, seperate mixES. Single mixer will provide multiple monitor mixes via multiple aux buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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