Members Remedy Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 should I just get an sm57 or is there better mics out there for the same price or cheaper. Just for micing my amp to the PA and possibly for recording. But mainly for live use. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rocksld Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Remedy, If you AREN'T looking to spend a few extra dollars for the cost of a mic for your amp, the SM57 is a fine choice that gives decent results. Remember, practice good mic placement to achieve your desired sound before getting too radical on EQ. Rocksalad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flanc Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 The 57 is great. Another, equally great, mic is the Senheisser e609. It is a paddle style mic that you can drape over the top of the amp thereby eliminating a mic-stand clutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joel77 Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Good suggestions,all. Another mic I've been using is the Audix i5. A little different than the above mentioned mics. Depending on how much you want to spend, I've always been partial to the Sennheiser MD421. I also have a Stedman N90 dynamic that I use on guitar amps. They're getting harder to find, though. Check eBay. Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Squier Fat Telecaster Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 A lot of big tours are using mics like the Shure KSM27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Live 57's and e609S are my choices. The 57 is a workhorse, the 609 a bit more mid clarity. The 609 is a hypercardiod, so it can be placed a bit further back reducing proximity effect. A combination of the two is deadly, using the 609 for warmth and the 57 for cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremendo Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Originally posted by where02190 Live 57's and e609S are my choices. The 57 is a workhorse, the 609 a bit more mid clarity. The 609 is a hypercardiod, so it can be placed a bit further back reducing proximity effect. A combination of the two is deadly, using the 609 for warmth and the 57 for cut. I use the e609, but with a stand. I prefer it back just a bit, instead of draping over the top. But it's neat you can go either way. Tomorrow I'm going to try the e609/SM57 combo on my 4x12 1960AHW cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tubedude Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 I use the SM57. I set the mike off axis about 2/3's toward center at about a 85 dergree angle pressed against the amps speakers cloth. That is my go to position that has worked for me for years. Its' not harsh and projects the midtrange real nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tubedude Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 opps I meant 95 degree angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flanc Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Originally posted by tubedude opps I meant 95 degree angle. Hmmm... I always put the 57 at about a 45 degree angle...halfway between parallel and perpendicular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nobrainer440 Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Regarding mic placement, there are a million ways to mic an amp, and none (well, almost) of them are neither right or wrong, just different. Move it around till you get a sound you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Originally posted by tubedude opps I meant 95 degree angle. Assuming you mean 95 degrees to the grill, that's pretty much straight on, I doubt that extra 5 degrees is yielding anything. Hey tremendo, FWIW, here's that I do. Both mics on the same speaker. Draw an imaginary line through the center of the speaker, and put the 57 just above the line, and the 609 just below, visually aligning the diaphrams so they are vertically in line, and place them both where the cone and surround meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremendo Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Originally posted by where02190 Hey tremendo, FWIW, here's that I do. Both mics on the same speaker. Draw an imaginary line through the center of the speaker, and put the 57 just above the line, and the 609 just below, visually aligning the diaphrams so they are vertically in line, and place them both where the cone and surround meet. Cool. That's about the spot where I normally mic it anyway with either an e609 or SM57. I've got this new 4x12 cabinet that I haven't double mic'd yet, but I will try it the way you say, on the same speaker. Maybe for show I'll throw another 3 mics on the other speakers. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 Originally posted by tremendo Maybe for show I'll throw another 3 mics on the other speakers. LOL. Well, if you wanted to do it right, you'd need 6 more mics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted November 10, 2006 Members Share Posted November 10, 2006 I use a shure SM57. I point it directly at the dust cap but at a 45 degree angle and about three inches from the grille cloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyP Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 The Senny 609S and Audix D4 make a very nice combination. I usually use Audix M1244-HCs on cabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted November 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 hey guys, thanks for the replies and great info. Im going to muck around a lot with mic placemanet tomorrow. Never experimented with it much before. Ive just been putting the mic straight on to the speaker (about 3 inches back from grill cloth) on the edge of the speaker. flat eq on desk So I can get a SENNHEISER e609 for $265 (AUD), whereas the SM57 is about $140. Almost half the price. Im liking the versatility of being able to drape the e609 for tight stages (althought that may compromise you 'favourite mic position') Is the e609 worth the extra bucks ? It has the versatility and neatness , but what about sound-wise, is it really worth it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 e609s $110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 e609s $110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted November 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 thanks where So, what about the e906, is it worth the extra money from the e609? any of you guys compared them? (its never ending, I'll end up spending $1000 or something ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 I haven't used them, but others I trust have and said very good things about them. However, for $100, the e609s is tough to beat, and for electric guitar, sax and trumpet, sounds amazing. Great warmth without muddyness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremendo Posted November 13, 2006 Members Share Posted November 13, 2006 Here were the e609 & SM57 in action together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted November 14, 2006 Members Share Posted November 14, 2006 I put them closer to the horizontal center, so they are almost touching, but yea that's basically it. Key is eyeballing the alignment of the diaphram distance from the cone. I generally will also align them even more precisely in the DAW once the tracks are recorded by slipping the more forward one back to align with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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