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    Vocal duo-Acoustic guitar, Taylor T5. We need a power mixer and speakers. We also sometimes play with a bar band with drums and bass.

    Thinking about a Yamaha EMX512SC and a decent pair of cabs. JBL or Club Vs? 15's or 12's?

    We want enough to play with the band, but will mostly be doing 150 people or less venues as an acoustic duo (two mics, two guitars).

    All things considered, best bets please!

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    Vocal duo-Acoustic guitar, Taylor T5. We need a power mixer and speakers. We also sometimes play with a bar band with drums and bass.

    Thinking about a Yamaha EMX512SC and a decent pair of cabs. JBL or Club Vs? 15's or 12's?

    We want enough to play with the band, but will mostly be doing 150 people or less venues as an acoustic duo (two mics, two guitars).

    All things considered, best bets please!



    Club 15s are very decent speakers. No problem for the acoustic stuff anyway. They will handle a little bass and kick drum but a subwoofer would be much better at this and a great addition if you start adding bass and kick more regularly. Al - Party-Time! DJ Services
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    • #3
      Off topic but how do you like that Taylor?
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      • #4
        We want enough to play with the band, but will mostly be doing 150 people or less venues as an acoustic duo (two mics, two guitars).


        Zzounds has that rig as a package deal, and it should suffice for the duo

        Yamaha EMX512SC, Club S115's, stands, cables for $1227

        http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMEMX512SC

        If you throw in drums and bass, start thinking subs and more power
        <div class="signaturecontainer"><font size="1">'52 Tele, '70 Strat, '72 Yamaha FG-230 12-string, Taylor 410, Fender P-Bass, Glaesel cello, violin, banjo, 2 trumpets, 2 Yamaha S-90's, Korg CX-3, Nord Electro 3 73, a coupla Yamaha PSR's, a sh!tload of harmonicas and way, way, way too much gear</font><br />
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        • #5
          Thanks for the good advice. For some reason, everyone is charging 70 bucks to ship the package, due to weight, yet if you buy one Club V 15' shipping is only 9.99. So it is 20 bucks vs. 70 bucks. At Musicians Friend you can get the stands free with the Club V's, so all you are giving up are their cheap cables and the mics.

          Any reason I should consider the JBL JRX 15s over the club V? I'd save like $60 by going JBL. Since we are going to hold off on the sub, I hear the Club Vs have a little better bass than do the JBLs.

          Off topic, to respond to your T-5 inquiry. I bought the standard with the maple top back in April. I am using a a/b as recommended to go between my acoustic and electric amp. It is an amazing instrument. Nothing like completely changing your sound on the fly. Great giging guitar if you don't have somebody handing you your next guitar everytime you change tunes. I still gig with an acoustic for that "pure" acoustic sound, but if I were to play only one, the T-5 would cover it all!

          Let me know on the speakers guys, Thanks!!!:

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          • #6
            JBL, as a rule , is good stuff. But IMHO, step up to MRX series
            <div class="signaturecontainer"><font size="1">'52 Tele, '70 Strat, '72 Yamaha FG-230 12-string, Taylor 410, Fender P-Bass, Glaesel cello, violin, banjo, 2 trumpets, 2 Yamaha S-90's, Korg CX-3, Nord Electro 3 73, a coupla Yamaha PSR's, a sh!tload of harmonicas and way, way, way too much gear</font><br />
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            • #7
              Unfortunately, my budget is around $1200. I can't afford to get into JBLMRX series.

              Since pristine vocals is the goal with our vocal duo, if you all were to choose between Yamaha Club series 15's and JBL JRX15's what do you recommend? Or is it a wash?

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              • #8
                Unfortunately, my budget is around $1200. I can't afford to get into JBLMRX series.

                Since pristine vocals is the goal with our vocal duo, if you all were to choose between Yamaha Club series 15's and JBL JRX15's what do you recommend? Or is it a wash?


                If pristine vocals is the goal, either save towards MRX or just buy one for now.
                .....

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                • #9
                  I think the clubs have the JRX's beat. If for no other reason, clubs have been road warriors for a number of years and I'm not sure of the beating a JRX can take. The 2" titanium tweeter (1" exit still, I've been busted on this ) on the clubs does tend to give em more clarity in the vocal range. But the MRX series are much better than either...
                  I own JBL SRX's for FOH and Yamaha Clubs for monitors...
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                  <font color="Red"><font size="1">Shouldn't &quot;anal retentive&quot; have a hyphen?</font></font></div>

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                  • #10
                    Maybe the MRX512's, then if you need to mic drums and bass later on, you could add 1 or 2 subs. That might help the budget a bit?

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the helpful advice. I am off to the cyber-store to buy gear!!

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                      • #12
                        Wait ! !

                        EV has just announced a factory special. Two packages are offered.

                        ZX-1 Mini package. You get:

                        2 - ZX-1 8" 2-ways
                        2 - Padded speaker bags with sholder straps
                        2 - Speaker stands

                        Or

                        ZX-1 Jumbo Package:

                        2 - ZX-1
                        2 - Sb122 subs
                        2 - Sub to top adjustable speaker poles
                        Padded cases for everything.

                        Details will be available from your local dealer.
                        Thanks,
                        Bill Cronheim
                        Enterainment Systems Corporation
                        Back stage since 1973

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