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    I've noticed alot of FOH racks with the only piece of Behringer gear being a quad-gate ... unfortunately, dbx's (1074) is out of budget, what are thoughts on the Behr's gates? I looked for the model online but after research couldn't remember if I've seen alot of the XR4400 or the MDX4600 (quad-comp/gate) since they look similiar ... I think everyone knows someone that uses 1 ....

    Only thing I can remember is that sometimes you may lose a channel on them ... not a big problem, I can work around it and they're cheap enough that I could even get a back-up.
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    keep saving your money for something other than behringer, just my opinion

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    • #3
      ZZounds has factory resealed DBX 266XL's for $119. It's 2 gates and not 4, but it's also some decent compression. The compresstion not as transparent as their higher priced units, but respectable and perfect for live applications. The gates aren't frequency modulated, but they are adjustable as far as how much gets through when closed. This is nice to avoid a "chatter" you'll get from gates slamming shut and then flying wide open. Anyway, here's the link - http://www.zzounds.com/item--DBX266XL
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      • #4
        Do you really need a gate, or would you be better off improving other things including your approach first?
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        • #5
          I've got a Behringer XR4400 in my rack that has worked flawlessly for about three years now. I actually prefer it over the gates on my ACP-88 & it works every bit as good as the DBX1074.

          YMMV.

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          • #6
            andy, ... did n't yo uhave some drawmer stuff available?
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            • #7
              andy, ... did n't yo uhave some drawmer stuff available?


              Comps, and way more expensive.
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              • #8
                My MDX4600 works just fine, I don't use it often for the type of music I do. It was given to me a while back.

                But it's been dependable for the past three years. I can usually work around this unit, but if needed - I "insert" it.

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                • #9
                  I had an XR4400 for a couple of years that worked fine and never gave me any trouble. Sounded pretty good too. I ended up selling it to one of my keyboard players when I had a gear clear-out, and he still uses it to this day. That said, I use a Samson quad gate at church that I think sounds a little clearer (and was only slightly more expensive)
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                  • #10
                    For an inexpensive gate, the old but easy to find Aphex 105 quad gate is hard to beat. Very reliable, quality unit that you can usually find on eBay for $100 if you bide your time.

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                      I've noticed alot of FOH racks with the only piece of Behringer gear being a quad-gate ... unfortunately, dbx's (1074) is out of budget, what are thoughts on the Behr's gates? I looked for the model online but after research couldn't remember if I've seen alot of the XR4400 or the MDX4600 (quad-comp/gate) since they look similiar ... I think everyone knows someone that uses 1 ....

                      Only thing I can remember is that sometimes you may lose a channel on them ... not a big problem, I can work around it and they're cheap enough that I could even get a back-up.


                      What your application for a quad gate? if it's for ringing toms try some dead ringers, duct tape, stick on felt. Way cheaper then a quad gate.

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                      • #12
                        What your application for a quad gate? if it's for ringing toms try some dead ringers, duct tape, stick on felt. Way cheaper then a quad gate.
                        But if your doing sound for others, you'll no doubt run into resistance of doing anything to their drum heads.... & in most cases rightly so.

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                        • #13
                          I'm in the market for a couple Aphex 105s, pm me if anyone has 1 or 2...
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                            ZZounds has factory resealed DBX 266XL's for $119. It's 2 gates and not 4, but it's also some decent compression

                            Just tryin to save some rack space with a quad-gate where I don't need comp.

                            Do you really need a gate

                            Yes, they can be useful IMO

                            or would you be better off improving other things including your approach first?

                            Instead of a gate the alternative is? Unmuting channels at the point in a song I think they will be used? ?

                            I've got a Behringer XR4400 in my rack that has worked flawlessly for about three years now. I actually prefer it over the gates on my ACP-88 & it works every bit as good as the DBX1074.

                            I had an XR4400 for a couple of years that worked fine and never gave me any trouble. Sounded pretty good too. I ended up selling it to one of my keyboard players when I had a gear clear-out, and he still uses it to this day. That said, I use a Samson quad gate at church that I think sounds a little clearer (and was only slightly more expensive)

                            Thanks for the useful info, think I may order one to try it out ... I've seen a couple ACP88s but never got any opinions on them.

                            What your application for a quad gate? if it's for ringing toms try some dead ringers, duct tape, stick on felt. Way cheaper then a quad gate.
                            But if your doing sound for others, you'll no doubt run into resistance of doing anything to their drum heads.... & in most cases rightly so.

                            Exactly, unfortunately there seem to more bad sounding drum kits than good ones, some I see are even in serious need of new heads, good tuning, etc. ... worked a show last night and 1 drummer even asked the soundman for a drum key! Funny thing is, I keep one in my rack drawer.
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                              Instead of a gate the alternative is? Unmuting channels at the point in a song I think they will be used? ?


                              As I suspected...

                              If this is how you plan on using the gate, you may find that the alternatives such as unmuting channels is a far superior alternnative. I think you will find this does not work all that well on open mics, and if you plan on using a gate on a line input, why bother? When a signal appears, great, no signal no problem either.
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