Members madball24 Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 question what rack case would i need for 3 crown xti 4000's how many spaces would i need? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 XTIs are 2U each, so at minimum you'll need a 6U rack. They're also not that heavy, so you could go with an ATA style rack case (preferred), or probably one of the molded plastic SKB cases. What else will you be putting in the rack? That's a big determining factor, too. The amps are only about 13" deep, so you don't even need an amp-depth rack, really. Plus, since each amp is under 20 pounds, you'll probably still have something lift-able by one person. This would be the smallest rack I'd consider for it. If you need to be able to have room for a patch panel on the back, go with a 16" depth one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blkmonday Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 +! for the ewi brand rack! i have one for my power amps as well and its sturdy and bullet proof. dont forget your casters...mine didnt come with casters so i grabbed a heavy duty set from home depot and installed them myself. the ewi rack is half the cost of those crappy skb racks (i also own a few of those) and twice the quality...audipile wins again..i wish they made more p.a. gear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fireax Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 I always buy larger than I need, and also...buy used.I've had a lot of luck purchasing used Anvil, Road Ready, and one EWI case used. For our amp rig case, we did the same thing you did.Three amps.We also put in a power conditionerer so we can plug in the QSC HPR speakers near the amps, and also some other item.Also, we installed a wood spacer between each amp, so we can get a little more air, to keep the amps from getting too hot. (QSC RMX's)We are using a 10 space Road Ready case for the amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bilbo71070 Posted June 17, 2009 Members Share Posted June 17, 2009 Go with EWI from audiopile. They're great to deal with and the cases are really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stingray5 Posted June 17, 2009 Members Share Posted June 17, 2009 Good Grief 2 bugs in unison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fireax Posted June 17, 2009 Members Share Posted June 17, 2009 LOLI really like the bugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted June 17, 2009 Members Share Posted June 17, 2009 8sp on casters would be my preference. 10 or 12sp if you need to add eq's or other processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bryan316 Posted June 17, 2009 Members Share Posted June 17, 2009 Leave extra spaces in case you want to put a crossover and hard limiter with the amps. Makes it very easy for running your signals. Just one Main output from your mixer to the crossover, then short jumpers down to the amps, then your speaker cables out. And keeping your amps near your speakers instead of with your mixing board allows for shorter speaker cables and less spaghetti to carry around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davis25 Posted June 20, 2009 Members Share Posted June 20, 2009 I am also looking for a new rack for my power amps. I have (1) CS4000 (new), (1) CS2000 (new), (3) PV1500's (new), Crossover, Power Conditioner and would like to throw a Peavey Power Distro in there. What rack would you guys recommend? I could also install the Peavey Power Distro into a seperate rack, because I have not come across many instances where it would be used. I would assume it will be pretty heavy and am not sure if rear rack rails would be recommended......Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted June 20, 2009 Members Share Posted June 20, 2009 I am also looking for a new rack for my power amps. I have (1) CS4000 (new), (1) CS2000 (new), (3) PV1500's (new), Crossover, Power Conditioner and would like to throw a Peavey Power Distro in there. What rack would you guys recommend? I could also install the Peavey Power Distro into a seperate rack, because I have not come across many instances where it would be used. I would assume it will be pretty heavy and am not sure if rear rack rails would be recommended......Thanks! A hernia belt... tha's going to be one hell of a heavy rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fireax Posted June 21, 2009 Members Share Posted June 21, 2009 A hernia belt... tha's going to be one hell of a heavy rack. Agedhorse is right.We had a similar set-up prior to the move to powered speakers.We had 5 QSC RMX's, power conditioner, and a couple of EQ's and compressors in a 16 space Road-Ready case. We called it "The Beast"It was a "Hernia in a box"To load and unload, we needed four people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davis25 Posted June 21, 2009 Members Share Posted June 21, 2009 Great points.....I think I may just go with two (6U) seperate SKB cases, then a seperate one for the Peavey Power Distro. How will the two cases handle being stacked, loaded with power amps? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fireax Posted June 21, 2009 Members Share Posted June 21, 2009 Great points.....I think I may just go with two (6U) seperate SKB cases, then a seperate one for the Peavey Power Distro.How will the two cases handle being stacked, loaded with power amps?Thanks! You know, if it was me, I would not use SKB cases for the amps.I would stick to the Anvil/Road Ready/EWI cases.They are just more sturdy. As far as stacking mine have the ball corners, and the bottom ball corners have divits in them so they match up to the case below. SKB boxes have the same thing. The top of the box has a male protrusion that mates up to the bottom of another SKB box. They pretty much lock into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted June 21, 2009 Members Share Posted June 21, 2009 My power amps are in individual 2U Gator plastic cases as I need to carry them by myself . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KF650SB1000 Posted June 21, 2009 Members Share Posted June 21, 2009 We are running 4 XTi or IT in a customer 12 space wheeled case. They are about 20" deep.- Patch panel (2 space)- Amp 1- Amp 2- Amp 3- Amp 4- Power Distro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted June 21, 2009 Members Share Posted June 21, 2009 Anything over 60+ pounds really needs wheels. That many PV amps I'd break up between mains and monitors. Plus you'll have more space inside for patching and getting in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mshifflett Posted June 22, 2009 Members Share Posted June 22, 2009 Go with EWI from audiopile. They're great to deal with and the cases are really nice. +1 I have about 4 rolling racks from them and they have been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kevinnem Posted June 23, 2009 Members Share Posted June 23, 2009 we jsut unloaded our set of MX1500 .. at one point we had 6 of those things ... and at 65 lbs each ...... welll you do the math. now we have XTI for the monitors, and are looking in to what we will use for FOH. Likely QSC, plx or powerlite. Our XTI rack is 3 4000's and 3 1000's with a 30 amp (single phase) distro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davis25 Posted June 26, 2009 Members Share Posted June 26, 2009 Does anyone know how I can get some rear rack ears for both the CS and PV models? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terry M Posted June 26, 2009 Members Share Posted June 26, 2009 Keep this in mind, the handles on an EWI / Audiopile rack (and almost all "real" cases/trunks) are MUCH, MUCH better than SKB. ...especially if you are not planning for casters. Then that brings me to the caster option for SKB. That is a poor excuse for actual useability. When I first started out, SKB was "cool" (new). But I started selling them off as quickly as I could due to these issues. At my level (club/small festival), EWI is the brand I buy - and the brand I suggest that you start with. They have many great products at very reasonable prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davis25 Posted June 26, 2009 Members Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thanks so much for all the great advice. I think I'll go with the EWI cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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