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  • #16
    FWIW, a used RQ2314 or RQ2318 probably can be found for $50-100 more than $169.

    That would be money much better spent.

    A buddy offered to give me a RAMSA WR last week. I couldn't turn him down fast enough -- and I'd much rather have that than the Peavey.
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    • #17
      I think there were at least two incarnations of the xr1600, the newer black one and the older greenish, maybe even a real old black/brown model .

      drawbacks; big, heavy, unknown history, unknown issues.

      the other thing is you don't want something that could go bad on you at a gig. recording is one thing, all kinds of time.

      benefits; lots of stuff for $150 bucks. some amount of utility.

      as far as a recording mixer..hmm, not sure. my opinion is to get good quality everything , only size it to what you may need. you're always being judged on your quality of sound, whether it be recorded or live. sure, the performance and all that matters most. "yea, and i did this track on my $150 peavey 1980s mixer" may be a decent disclaimer for the average recipient but...


      Thanks. This unit is black and I'm aware of the lack of knowledge about it's history and potential issues upon warm up.
      Weight is no concern since it will more than likely sit in the same place it's first placed.
      It's not planned to gig with it and though I mentioned the possibility of use as a back up monitor amp that is not likely to occur since a back up system is already in place in the situation I was thinking about and any backyard use would be my backyard where I'd enlist the help of other people in getting it moved to the back yard.
      The recording use would certainly not be for creating salable CDs, rather as mentioned, LoFi stuff to send to my family and to record the back yard stuff for posterity for the participants.

      I appreciate your input.
      Still Kickin' cancer's ass....Blue Water Sailors of the Vietnam WarHCGB Trooper #246Psalm 19 SocietyI can't really imagine experiencing the desire for multiple women; one has proven to be taxing enough as it is.Thanks Offy

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      • #18
        I'd take some time to familiarize yourself with the weight of that board before purchase.

        It is sorta the love child of the old CS400 and Mark series mixer, and weighs about what you would expect from a product housing both in a single enclosure.

        You can get a general notion of the ownership experience of that board (without having to spring for one) by volunteering to help a neighbor move his hide-a-bed up a staircase with an awkward turn in the middle.


        Heh...Yeah, I get that but again this isn't something I plan on moving or toting to gigs. It'll get transported to my home and reside therein and if it's does get transported to the backyard others will do the toting.

        Thanks for that.
        Still Kickin' cancer's ass....Blue Water Sailors of the Vietnam WarHCGB Trooper #246Psalm 19 SocietyI can't really imagine experiencing the desire for multiple women; one has proven to be taxing enough as it is.Thanks Offy

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        • #19
          I addressed your post in a succinct and serious manner. You assume I was being sarcastic, but was not.

          I never said your questions weren't valid. I also didn't say the mixer wasn't worth *looking at*. I said it's on the shelf for a reason. Priced too high. Too big. Too old. Doesn't work 100%. Isn't very good even when it works 100%. All of the above. Without even seeing it I know it fits several of those reasons for sitting unsold.



          I'd offer 50 bucks if it's fully functional. Not a penny more. Use the rest for a hand truck.


          Thank you Craig I appreciate that you've given your reasons.
          Some of your remarks contradict what another responder who has owned one of the units in question posted but I'll certainly take your thoughts in mind.
          As to your 50 bone offer suggestion I will certainly take it into consideration. I do have hand trucks and dollies that will carry the weight.
          I'm also not dead set on making an offer but, as mentioned before, if it functions fully I will probably make an offer but taking your recommendation into consideration it would be considerably less than I was originally thinking.

          Now, wouldn't giving that kind of reply as your initial response saved us going through the back and forth we have?
          Still Kickin' cancer's ass....Blue Water Sailors of the Vietnam WarHCGB Trooper #246Psalm 19 SocietyI can't really imagine experiencing the desire for multiple women; one has proven to be taxing enough as it is.Thanks Offy

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          • #20


            Now, wouldn't giving that kind of reply as your initial response saved us going through the back and forth we have?


            Not assuming I was being sarcastic would have accomplished that.

            I didn't think this needed all that much explanation. I'd never consider a monstrosity like this for recording. It's bigger than some home studios and many control rooms.
            "If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else" - Yogi Berra, 1925-2015

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            • #21
              Well Craig, since I'm not a professional in the business and don't profess to know everything there is to know about every single piece of equipment in existence as you seem to, when I ask questions I would expect a reason for a particular opinion, even if that opinion is such as your first response.
              Your first response did not give reasons as to why you thought it was on the shelf too long though you did on your recent reply some opinions were, as mentioned, were contradicted by another responder.
              So, who am I going to believe, someone who has owned a like unit, or a guy who always seems to have his panties in a bunch?
              Still Kickin' cancer's ass....Blue Water Sailors of the Vietnam WarHCGB Trooper #246Psalm 19 SocietyI can't really imagine experiencing the desire for multiple women; one has proven to be taxing enough as it is.Thanks Offy

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              • #22
                One guy thought it was cool, a bunch of us gave another opinion. I've serviced them and they are a bitch to work on when they do need work and require a pretty big service bench due to how they open up. I would expect there to be some problems, mostly intermittent problems so keep that in mind when chevcking it out.

                It may be a good deal for you. If not, you are only out some "pocket change". Not a big deal I assume.
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                Currently product development engineer: Mesa Boogie

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                • #23
                  One guy thought it was cool, a bunch of us gave another opinion. I've serviced them and they are a bitch to work on when they do need work and require a pretty big service bench due to how they open up. I would expect there to be some problems, mostly intermittent problems so keep that in mind when chevcking it out.

                  It may be a good deal for you. If not, you are only out some "pocket change". Not a big deal I assume.


                  Thanks again agedhorse I always appreciate your advise and knowledge and will certainly keep your input in mind when I go back, if I go back. May well be something else could very well crop up that would be a better place for the money I have scrimped up to spend on something at is of interest to me, even if it's not the best buy or deal for someone else.
                  From the looks of the unit it has not been gigged much though I did not go over it with a fine toothed comb all knobs were there and looked to be straight with no bent shafts, same with the sliders, no obvious scratches or dings and I would certainly try to have it lit up for some length of time.
                  Money's always an issue since I'm on limited income.
                  Heck, if I do end up with it and it craps out the knobs, pots & some other parts may well be salable.
                  Who knows, it may not be there if and when I go back and then this whole thing is moot.
                  Still Kickin' cancer's ass....Blue Water Sailors of the Vietnam WarHCGB Trooper #246Psalm 19 SocietyI can't really imagine experiencing the desire for multiple women; one has proven to be taxing enough as it is.Thanks Offy

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                  • #24
                    Well Craig, since I'm not a professional in the business and don't profess to know everything there is to know about every single piece of equipment in existence as you seem to, when I ask questions I would expect a reason for a particular opinion, even if that opinion is such as your first response.
                    Your first response did not give reasons as to why you thought it was on the shelf too long though you did on your recent reply some opinions were, as mentioned, were contradicted by another responder.
                    So, who am I going to believe, someone who has owned a like unit, or a guy who always seems to have his panties in a bunch?


                    Is this "let's attack the moderator", or is there some reason for your attitude towards me in this thread in general, and the personal attacks in this post in particular?
                    "If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else" - Yogi Berra, 1925-2015

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                    • #25
                      There won't be any bent knobs... they should be plastic shafts. They break before they bend.

                      The parts are worth nothing. Zero. I ****************canned several thousand parts of this type because I couldn't even give them away. You want some (really good) channel strips from a real console? They are yours for the cost of shipping.
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                      Former product development engineer: Genz Benz, a KMC Music/FMIC/JAM Industries Company, continuing factory level product support and service for Genz Benz

                      Currently product development engineer: Mesa Boogie

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                      • #26
                        Is this "let's attack the moderator", or is there some reason for your attitude towards me in this thread in general, and the personal attacks in this post in particular?


                        I'm not attacking you I'm giving my opinion, plain and simple.
                        You might use a bit more tact in your responses, particularly since you are a moderator.
                        In normal circumstances when one asks an opinion and that is given it is tempered with some type of reasoning. Your responses to my queries have not one time been educational regarding your advice. It's a POS or it's been on the shelf too long do not address any question with a educational information and fall back to it's an opinion. An opinion not based in fact or reasonably verifiable information is just that, an opinion. Maybe I was remiss in stating my intentions as to the information I was seeking in my subject line but I cannot edit that to correct it and I thought I made my needs easily understood within my post.

                        If this is banning material so be it. It will definitely show your true colors.

                        Take my attitude as a direct response to yours. I'm too old to abide egos and, again, in my opinion, yours is larger than it should be.
                        There are many on this forum with knowledge far surpassing yours and they answer questions with insight and a friendly manner. Your history has shown otherwise.

                        Congratulations it's amazing a moderator could make anyone's ignore list.
                        I know it doesn't mean a hill of beans to you but it should be an embarrassment.
                        Still Kickin' cancer's ass....Blue Water Sailors of the Vietnam WarHCGB Trooper #246Psalm 19 SocietyI can't really imagine experiencing the desire for multiple women; one has proven to be taxing enough as it is.Thanks Offy

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                        • #27
                          Oh, dang, I can't add a moderator to my ignore list. I wonder why that is....
                          Still Kickin' cancer's ass....Blue Water Sailors of the Vietnam WarHCGB Trooper #246Psalm 19 SocietyI can't really imagine experiencing the desire for multiple women; one has proven to be taxing enough as it is.Thanks Offy

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                          • #28
                            What's with all the attitude on the forums these days? Weather that hot?
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                            Currently product development engineer: Mesa Boogie

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                            • #29
                              What's with all the attitude on the forums these days? Weather that hot?

                              Well... it is that hot... so up your's ok? Up everybody else's as far as I'm concerned. Who can think straight or get anything meaningful accomplished in this weather? It's so stupid hot it seems like a good time to go out and kick somebody's ass... and I'd do it too... if I could find any ambition and a cool spot to do the ass kicking. Anymore of this sort of stupid hot weather and... I'm gonna have to go find a cool place to take a nap... and everybody and everything can just go to pot as far as I'm concerned.

                              I think I'll get in my automobile vehicle which is equipped with air conditioning... crank the AC on high and aimlessly drive around for awhile.

                              Oh yea... and speaking of kicking somebody's ass... Paul Thorn's got something to say on that subject:

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzU9FgNTYrU&feature=related

                              I especially like the photos of the crane picking the crane out of the harbor that was suppose to pick the crane out of the harbor that was suppose to pick something out of the harbor.

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                              • #30
                                Congratulations it's amazing a moderator could make anyone's ignore list.
                                I know it doesn't mean a hill of beans to you but it should be an embarrassment.
                                "If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else" - Yogi Berra, 1925-2015

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