Members Count Dissident Posted September 25, 2009 Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 Would a Crown XLS 202 be a big enough amp to power two Peavey PV 12M monitors? If not,are there any suggestions for monitors to pair with this amp? Thanks-Count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 25, 2009 Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 give us some numbers on the two players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dboomer Posted September 25, 2009 Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 I have found that as a general rule most bands are ok with around 200-300w @ 8 ohms PER monitor. XLS is 140 @ 8 I think and should be ok. A little light but ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 The amp claims 200 watts and the speakers 98dB efficiency. That should be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 The amp claims 200 watts and the speakers 98dB efficiency. That should be okay.if the efficiency is accurate that should tear your ears off if you want it that loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Count Dissident Posted September 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thanks for the responses! The numbers are: Crown XLS 202:200 watts per channel at 8 ohms 300 watts per channel at 4 ohms 400 watts at 8 ohms bridged Peavey PV 12M:500 watts program 8 ohms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 I recently "sidegraded" the monitor amp in a rig from a single RMX2450 to a pair of RMX850's that put out the same power as that XLS202 and I have yet to see the clip lights flicker even when run as hot as the GBF of SM58's allow. How deaf do you all need to be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thanks for the responses! The numbers are:Crown XLS 202:200 watts per channel at 8 ohms 300 watts per channel at 4 ohms 400 watts at 8 ohms bridged Something's wrong with these numbers. 8 ohm bridged should be 600 watts. Or, that's actually 16 ohms bridged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Count Dissident Posted September 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 Something's wrong with these numbers.8 ohm bridged should be 600 watts. Or, that's actually 16 ohms bridged. I'm not sure if these numbers are correct but I got them from the official websites. Just wondering if the amp would underpower the speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 Just wondering if the amp would underpower the speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 Sometimes you can't believe a website, or an error was made everywhere and it just got duplicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 I'm not sure if these numbers are correct but I got them from the official websites. Just wondering if the amp would underpower the speakers. No, it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 . Should be ok. Just make sure you don't run anything thru them at low volumes. That could be very damaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dboomer Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 I have found that as a general rule most bands are ok with around 200-300w @ 8 ohms PER monitor. XLS is 140 @ 8 I think and should be ok. A little light but ok. The difference between 200W and 140W is negligible ... only 1.5 dB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Count Dissident Posted September 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 Thanks to tbonehead and GCDEF for answering my "underpowering" question and to tbonehead for telling me what to be careful of doing. Roadranger,not sure why the but I have read on this forum (and here: http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/live-sound/power-amplifiers/buying-guide.php#1 ) about matching speakers and amps and according to the guides the numbers don't match. With that said, there are people in this thread telling me it is OK to use them together. This is the reason for my question.There seem to be a lot of variables to think about when matching speakers and amps and I wanted get opinions from people who know these things well to be sure that I would be OK with the pairing. I'm sorry,I was under the impression that one of the great things about this forum was for people to get help from other people who have more knowledge in a certain area. I guess with your "facepalm" answer,you dont see it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6Imzadi Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 What you don't know from only being here a short time is that the subject of "underpowering" speakers has been talked about ad nauseum on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 What you don't know from only being here a short time is that the subject of "underpowering" speakers has been talked about ad nauseum on this forum.Or that my last comment was a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Count Dissident Posted September 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 What you don't know from only being here a short time is that the subject of "underpowering" speakers has been talked about ad nauseum on this forum. Sorry if my question was redundant. I was just asking to be safe before pairing these specific items. Thanks again to those who answered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 Sorry if my question was redundant. I was just asking to be safe before pairing these specific items. Thanks again to those who answered!the point being that there is no such thing as underpowering a speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 Should be ok. Just make sure you don't run anything thru them at low volumes. That could be very damaging.I like to store my monitors with 110v applied to them to keep them from being underpowered too long . Seriously, the dangers of "underpowing" was a bunch of BS made up by the folks who profit from selling you bigger amps and new speakers when you blow yours up. 200 watts into most floor monitors is enough to cause permanent hearing damage if you ever cranked it up to max for long. 200w into a 98db efficiency speaker is 113db at 6 feet - ouch ! The OSHA permissible exposure limit for that is under one minute per day. If you allow 10db headroom and average 103db you're good for 7.5 minutes per day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 27, 2009 Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 Maximum power is the only real concern, assuming you are not clipping any amplifier. LESS than the maximum rated power (an this is subject to debate) is not a problem. Clipping any amplifier at almost any power level can be a problem with a full range signal. Search here on this topic, it's been discussed in detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Count Dissident Posted September 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2009 Thanks for the info and the explanation,it is appreciated!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Count Dissident Posted September 28, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2009 One other thing I thought I would ask about...the basic hook-up from the mixer to the power amp for the monitors. I should go from the mixer Aux to the power amp,correct? The Aux is 1/4" and the power amp has only XLR. How do I do the hook-up? Please excuse if this is again repetitive from earlier posts,but I didn't find a clear answer from my search. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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