Members injected Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 What's the most craziest, loudest, quality pa's you've ever seen? Specs/pics/prices? Also, where's some of the most expensive PA packages? http://www.audiolines.com/DJ-Package-Deals-220/SpeakerAmplifier-Packages/Dynacord-Cobra-4-System I saw that, and i KNOW there has to be bigger more expensive ones. Just for fun. I like gawking at nice equipment:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldschooler Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 I think the L-Acoustic K-1 is currently the biggest line array out. Dave Rat is touring with it. $80K might get you 5 boxes or 4 boxes and fly ware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members injected Posted January 30, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 daaaaaaamn! HOLY HELL! edit: is that all the subbage? it seems like they would need alot more subs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 For over the top, perhaps Grateful Dead's wall of sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allexcosta Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 K-Array is supposed to be very expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Al Poulin Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 For over the top, perhaps Grateful Dead's wall of sound Man, I would call it the wall of comb filtering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 L'acoustics, Adamson, D&B and, of course, Meyer tend to be the most expensive and best sounding options out there right now. As I understand it, the wall of sound has long since been parted out and there are pieces of it in many basements and rehearsal studios around the bay area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 I wish people would stop posting pictures of that K-Array. Makes me want one so freaking bad. I'd gladly ditch my Meyer system for one of those. EDIT: The only pricing I can find for K-Array is a price guide from Ireland. Ko70 OVERBASS Subwoofer USD$22,601.15KH4 Self Powered Line Array Element USD$25,313.98KH15 Self Powered Ultra Compact Element USD$9,378.27KS4 Self Powered Line Array Sub USD$14,782.33 ...which is why it won't be happening any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allexcosta Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 I wish people would stop posting pictures of that K-Array. Makes me want one so freaking bad. I'd gladly ditch my Meyer system for one of those. Who posted a picture of a K-Array? Who did that to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 Man, I would call it the wall of comb filtering. No, the wall of sound was not a single "fullrange" system. It was individual systems for each instrument. I'm not sure if vocals were individual or if it was a single system for vocals. Bose used this concept for their Stix. Dave Rat used this concept for his dual line array (vocals and instruments separated). Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 Who posted a picture of a K-Array? Who did that to you? Oh, I don't just mean here. I was looking at pictures of Warped Tour last year and they used a K-Array system for one of the stages. Drool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allexcosta Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 Oh, I don't just mean here. I was looking at pictures of Warped Tour last year and they used a K-Array system for one of the stages. Drool. Then drool just a bit more... They really should lose the K-Mart logo on the grill, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1tribe Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 Anything from these guy's will set your bank account back. Ive heard some 3 way trap boxes and they sound amazing! http://www.fulcrum-acoustic.com/products/prophileseries/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members St Stephen Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 No, the wall of sound was not a single "fullrange" system. It was individual systems for each instrument. I'm not sure if vocals were individual or if it was a single system for vocals. Bose used this concept for their Stix. Dave Rat used this concept for his dual line array (vocals and instruments separated).Dennis Yes, the wall of sound was over the top to say the least, and it nearly bankrupt the band trying to haul it around the country, the reason for the 1975 hiatus.Six independent sound systems all driven by Mac2300's. Vocals, guitar x2, piano, bass, and drums. 48 amps were used to drive 641 speakers (all JBL). The whole system operates on 26,400 watts of RMS power. John Meyer had quite a bit of influence in making this system operate. My info is taken from the book "Grateful Dead Gear". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gregidon Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 http://360.u2.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members injected Posted January 30, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 Those K line array speakers are SO FLAT! How is that possible??? And how can they cover so many people?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 A couple of shots of our 90's touring rig, before we got into line arrays. Not uber-expensive, but not cheap either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members injected Posted January 30, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 ^^Aren't those kind of like the same as line arrays? I really like the first picture, I love how the speakers are curved it looks really aesthetically appealing are you like a touring company then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 ^^Aren't those kind of like the same as line arrays? Yeah, that array requires chain motors just like line arrays but that array no longer makes your phone ring. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nope, just some good sounding conventional arrays. They're what's now known as McCauley Eagle Array boxes. We designed them, McCauley built them. We used to be a touring co. We were always a little too small to compete with the big touring companies, and a little too big to compete with the regional guys, so we downsized a bit, merged with another company and started focusing on new markets. We're a much more profitable business for it. I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss doing those big festivals just a bit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted January 30, 2010 Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 Yeah, that array requires chain motors just like line arrays but that array no longer makes your phone ring. Dennis Too true. I know where you can get a good deal on 50 of those boxes. We now use L'acoustics VDOSC and dvdosc, which keeps the phones ringing pretty consistently. I must say though, our Adamson conventional boxes are still big earners. Line arrays don't make sense in every application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members injected Posted January 30, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2010 Yeah, that array requires chain motors just like line arrays but that array no longer makes your phone ring.Dennis Oh you mean, when somebodies phone rings, it makes that sound that goes BEEE DEE DE E DPEP BEEEP DEP or whatever? Why does that happen anyway? And how does it prevent it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 31, 2010 Members Share Posted January 31, 2010 Man, I would call it the wall of comb filtering. Except that most of the speaker "arrays" are reproducing different sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Square Posted January 31, 2010 Members Share Posted January 31, 2010 Oh you mean, when somebodies phone rings, it makes that sound that goes BEEE DEE DE E DPEP BEEEP DEP or whatever? Why does that happen anyway? And how does it prevent it? Actually, I think he was referring to the "Ka-Ching! $$$$$$" sound the sound company owner's phone makes when someone calls and wants to rent a large line array. Point source arrays, while often perfectly suitable, and actually a better solution in some situations, are not currently "in -vouge" and therefore owning a point source rig is not very profitable now-a-days. P.S. - please note the "Ka-Ching! $$$$$$" sound is a relative term as it is very difficult to make any sound company profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Al Poulin Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 Except that most of the speaker "arrays" are reproducing different sources. Oh... Was not aware of this. Thanks Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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