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    I am looking to get a PA setup for me and my buddy playing at a local bar. Right now it will probably be just us acoustic, probably full band in the future. On craigslist there is a cheap PA setup but I don't know too much about them if anyone could give me some insight it would be appreciated.

    For about $500 I can get

    Behringer PMP 2000 800-watt 10-channel mixer ($350 new):

    2 Peavey PR 12 speakers ($170 each, new):

    Shure SM58 microphone ($100 new)

    and 2 speaker stands

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    Most manufacturers would rate the power of that behringer mixer/amp at about 150W/Ch.

    other than that ... yeah, it's a small PA probably about right for an acoustic duo, unless you were planning to run backing tracks that had bass and drums.
    Don Boomer

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    • #3
      Good for now, but doesn't leave you much room to grow into.
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      • #4
        You'd be better off getting two powered Peavey's and a passive mixer. Down the road you can expand the mixer to accommodate a full band and still use the powered tops, or even get bigger/better tops and use them as powered wedges. Power speaker/passive mixer is almost ALWAYS better than powered mixer/passive speakers.

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        • #5
          any recommendations on a cheap powered speaker/passive mixer setup

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          • #6
            You'd be better off getting two powered Peavey's and a passive mixer. Down the road you can expand the mixer to accommodate a full band and still use the powered tops, or even get bigger/better tops and use them as powered wedges. Power speaker/passive mixer is almost ALWAYS better than powered mixer/passive speakers.


            Oh man, you're never gonna get away with that statement here.

            I will agree that its easier for those lacking in experience to have a simple set up by going with powered speakers.
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              Is your budget $500?
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              • #8
                You'd be better off getting two powered Peavey's and a passive mixer. Down the road you can expand the mixer to accommodate a full band and still use the powered tops, or even get bigger/better tops and use them as powered wedges. Power speaker/passive mixer is almost ALWAYS better than powered mixer/passive speakers.


                Actually I apologize, I think you're safe. I misread your post thinking you meant having passive speakers was bad. But I see you mean the combo of the passive speakers and powered mixer is no good, which does make sense, as its very easy to outgrow the mixer.
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                • #9
                  trying to keep it under around $700 for everything including a mic and stand

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                  • #10
                    trying to keep it under around $700 for everything including a mic and stand


                    That is going to be tough.

                    http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Allen-&-Heath-ZED12FX-Harbinger-APS15-PA-System?sku=631041

                    This is $900 but the nice thing is it starts you off with a decent mixer. Which means you can upgrade the speakers when you need (and have the funds to).

                    Even so, if you're going to add a full band and want to have everything eventually mic'ed you might run out of inputs on this mixer.

                    I would really take a look at your goals for your sound and think about what you'll need to grow into.

                    It is always best to buy big and have extra for later than to buy small and wind up selling what you got on craigslist to help pay for the new system you need 6 months down the road.
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                    • #11
                      I think you need to up your budget a little and buy stuff you can use down the line. You could get something like...

                      -pair of Mackie SRM 350 used, pair of JBL EON used, or a pair of Behringer active speakers. Move these to monitors once you get the full band going

                      -Peavey PV6 mixer, which really won't work for a full band if you plan on mic'ing anything other than vocals

                      -SM 58, mic stand, speaker stands, and cables
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                      • #12
                        trying to keep it under around $700 for everything including a mic and stand


                        Try to find a MF, American Musical Supply, etc. package deal with either Yamaha or Peavey components. Behringer is inexpensive but so iffy on quality...meaning stuff that simply quits working after a few days or months. For some reason it seems to be a wrose problem in the US than overseas, but the price difference is not worth chancing, IMO.
                        Write something...

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                        • #13
                          American Musical Supply, Zzounds and Sweetwater all have payment plans with no interest.

                          IIRC...

                          AMS : $250 - 999$ = 3 months of payments
                          AMS : $1000 - $3000 = 5 months of payments

                          Zzounds = 4 payments

                          Sweetwater = 3 payments

                          I purchased most of my equipment, including my recent StudioLive 16.4.2, from AMS. However, we purchased a Korg M50 from Sweetwater because they were the only seller (that we found) that had the green model and allowed multiple payments.

                          mike

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                          • #14
                            Oh man, you're never gonna get away with that statement here.

                            I will agree that its easier for those lacking in experience to have a simple set up by going with powered speakers.


                            I'll agree with Barisaxman2000. ALMOST ALWAYS you will be better off with powered speakers. Bi-amped, properly powered, properly limited with electronic crossovers, often other DSP that optimizes and/or protects the components. It's as bullet proof as you'll get and the best chance of sounding acceptable out of the box.
                            www.nextexitrocks.com

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                            • #15
                              how would something like this be: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer-UB1222FX---B215D-PA-Package-485753-i1527132.gc

                              Is behringer really that bad? There aren't too many full PA packages that have powered speakers, most of the packages just have powered mixers.

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