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  • Yorkville NX Vs. QSC K Series

    Has anyone done a side by side of these systems? Yorkville Sound 2 NX55p's with 1 NX 720 sub versus 2 QSC K10's with 1 K Sub?

    I have the Yorkville System and its great. I heard the QSC with a band before buying the yorkville and was not too impressed, however I heard this system with a different band (and different sound man) and it sounded really good.

    I like what I have but would like opinions of others. The other thing is, when using the 2 NX 55's I need to keep the vol on about 3-4 with the sub on 7-8 or the tops overwhelm the feel of the sub. Someone already said I must be dpoing something wrong, however I say - Look at the yorkville excursion 1000 for example. They have 650 watts to the sub and only 350 to the 2 tops. Plus the Yorkville dealer told me I would need to run it this way.
    Oh, I cant fit two subs

    i thought the QSC would lighten my load and if majority here thinks its a better system I will investigate furthur.

    Thanks

  • #2
    Apples to Oranges. Wood (nx) vs. Plastic (k) cabs, etc...

    I would definitely like to hear the NX's against the KW's though!
    <div class="signaturecontainer"><b><font face="Tahoma">Boston Common Band - <a href="http://www.BostonCommonBand.com" target="_blank">Boston Wedding Bands</a></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Sound</font></b>: <font size="1">DB Tech DVA T4's with RCF TTS18a Subs | QSC Wideline GP218 Sub for Big Events | RCF TT08a &amp; RCF ART710a Monitors</font><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Rack</font></b>: <font size="1">A&amp;H QU16 | (2) Summit Audio TLA-50 Tube Compressors | QSC PLX3602 | Furman P2400AR Voltage Regulators</font><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Lighting</font></b>: <font size="1">(8) Blizzard HOTBOX's | (2) Blizzard Weather Systems | (2) Chauvet Eclipse RGB + ADJ Hypnotic RGB &amp; Royal 3D Lasers | (4) QSpot360 Moving Heads</font><br><b><a href="http://www.BostonCommonBand.com" target="_blank"><font size="1">Newport RI Wedding Bands</font></a></b></font><br><b><font color="DarkBlue">For Sale</font></b>: <font size="2"><a href="http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Live-Gear/FS-Rack-Gear-Tube-Compressors-and-Mackie-Quad-EQ/m-p/35983107#U35983107">Rack Gear : Tube Compressors (Live/Studio) and Mackie Quad EQ!</a></font></div>

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    • #3
      I'm with dcaster. No brainer between those cabs. NX wins hands down. The K series is OK but I don't necessarily believe their power advertising.
      <div class="signaturecontainer"><b><font size="2">&quot;The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.&quot;</font></b> - <i>Hunter S. Thompson</i><br />
      <br />
      Band promo shots on railroad tracks were cool in 1981...<img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/facepalm.gif" border="0" alt="" title="facepalm" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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      • #4
        Any reviews I've seen regarding the K-sub, has referred to them as being somewhat anemic. I for one, can't imagine a K-sub keeping up with a single LS-720p, let alone two.

        What kind/genre of music are you running through your system Rumosrband? I'm kinda thrown by your comment about running the subs at 7,8 to keep up with the tops. According to what I've read, the LS720p's were originally designed to keep up with the NX750p.
        Veni, Vidi, Velcro;

        (I came, I saw, I stuck around)

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        • #5
          NX tops are plastic, subs are ply
          <div class="signaturecontainer"><font size="2"><font size="1"><i>StudioLive 16.4.2 - Yorkville U15p - JTR Growler subs - Good Ears and Curious Mind</i></font></font></div>

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          • #6
            I have a sequence band. Live guitars/keyboards and vocals backed by sequence drums/bass/and other keyboard sounds. We do everything from Sinatra to Lady Gaga mostly in a restaurant setting. In regards to an earlier comment - The NX are composite material (plastic) like the K series arent they? The sub is wood but not the tops unless I am mistaken.

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            • #7
              The NX720s has an 11-ply 5/8" Russian Birch enclosure. Here's the specs for those interested.

              Specifications
              System Type Powered Subwoofer
              Active or Passive Active
              Program Power (Watts) 720
              Max SPL (dB) 128
              Frequency Response (Hz +/- 3db) 40 - 150 adjustable
              Driver Configuration 15-inch / 3-inch voice coil
              LF Driver(s) 15-inch Neodymium Magnet Cast Frame
              LF Program Power(Watts) 720
              LF Protection Electronic Limiting (Excursion, Thermal, Clip)
              Cooling Scheme Passive convection
              Power Cable Detachable IEC
              Power Switch Yes
              Power Consumption (typ/max) 230VAC 50 Hz 1.2A
              Inputs - 1/4" Jacks 1 In, 1 Link Out
              Inputs - XLR Left and Right Male/Female Link
              Level Controls Main Volume
              EQ Controls HF Cut-off 90 - 150Hz
              Limiter RMS / Peak / Current
              LED Indicators Power / Limit / Clip
              Other Controls / Features Selectable line or Speaker level input
              45Hz - 90Hz variable boost frequency
              Feet Rubber
              Bar Handles 2 Side Mounted
              Pole Mount Adapter (1 3/8"-3.5cm) Top
              Enclosure Materials 15mm (5/8-inch) 11-ply Russian Birch
              Port(s) 1
              Grille Heavy Gauge perforated metal
              Covering / Finish Black Ultrathane (painted)
              Dimensions (DWH xbackW, inches) 21.5 x 18.1 x 22.75
              Dimensions (DWH xbackW, cm) 54.6 x 46 x 57.8
              Weight (lbs/kg) 77.6 / 35.2
              Veni, Vidi, Velcro;

              (I came, I saw, I stuck around)

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              • #8
                Frankly, you answered your own question when you said you heard the QSC system and weren't all that impressed, and then you heard the QSC system and were impressed.

                Sound is in the ears of the operator. If you made a switch from either system to either system, depending on your skill level you could probably get pretty close to each one. Personally I like the Yorkville stuff for what you're doing.

                And what does it matter where you're running your subs and tops as long as they're balanced musically, and the gain stage is optimized?

                I've haven't used the K series in the field, but I have used the HPR stuff. IMHO for slightly tamer gigs, I would pick the NX55P's over the HPR 122i's simply because the 55P's have some colour built in. The HPR's are very clinical sounding (flat) to my ears. Normally a good thing in loud/pro situations but for quieter gigs a little bit of flavour is nice.

                As I said, I haven't road tested the K series, maybe they have more "grease" on them.

                Bottom line, don't change horses in the middle of a stream, unless you're sinking - doesn't sound like that's the case.

                Remember Erma Bombeck; the grass is always greener on the other side -now how did that pop into my head?

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                • #9


                  Remember Erma Bombeck; the grass is always greener on the other side -now how did that pop into my head?


                  Didn't she write "If Life Is Just a Bowl of Cherries, What Am I Doing in the Pits"?
                  Veni, Vidi, Velcro;

                  (I came, I saw, I stuck around)

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                  • #10


                    Didn't she write "If Life Is Just a Bowl of Cherries, What Am I Doing in the Pits"?


                    Sounds like a country song

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for all the support ...Just always trying to sound as good as possible ...all the time. How about these dbx powered speaker processors they sell? Make a difference or a waste of money?

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for all the support ...Just always trying to sound as good as possible ...all the time. How about these dbx powered speaker processors they sell? Make a difference or a waste of money?


                        The PA/PA+ is not worth it... but the 260 can be fairly useful for not wanting a huge rack of gear.... does it make everything sound "OMG AWESOME??". Well, no. But it does make things quite a bit easier.
                        <div class="signaturecontainer"><b><font face="Tahoma">Boston Common Band - <a href="http://www.BostonCommonBand.com" target="_blank">Boston Wedding Bands</a></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Sound</font></b>: <font size="1">DB Tech DVA T4's with RCF TTS18a Subs | QSC Wideline GP218 Sub for Big Events | RCF TT08a &amp; RCF ART710a Monitors</font><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Rack</font></b>: <font size="1">A&amp;H QU16 | (2) Summit Audio TLA-50 Tube Compressors | QSC PLX3602 | Furman P2400AR Voltage Regulators</font><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Lighting</font></b>: <font size="1">(8) Blizzard HOTBOX's | (2) Blizzard Weather Systems | (2) Chauvet Eclipse RGB + ADJ Hypnotic RGB &amp; Royal 3D Lasers | (4) QSpot360 Moving Heads</font><br><b><a href="http://www.BostonCommonBand.com" target="_blank"><font size="1">Newport RI Wedding Bands</font></a></b></font><br><b><font color="DarkBlue">For Sale</font></b>: <font size="2"><a href="http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Live-Gear/FS-Rack-Gear-Tube-Compressors-and-Mackie-Quad-EQ/m-p/35983107#U35983107">Rack Gear : Tube Compressors (Live/Studio) and Mackie Quad EQ!</a></font></div>

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                        • #13
                          FWIW... if you can find a dealer... Take a look at the QSC GP212 sub and pair it with a bridged PLX2502. It's an amazing combination in quite a small package. VERY "punchy".

                          http://www.qscaudio.com/products/speakers/GP212sw/index.htm

                          Basics:
                          2x12"
                          1100w Continuous
                          129db / 135db - Continuous / Peak
                          ~99db sensitivity.
                          40-100hz @ +/- 3db


                          Basically run Ch1+Ch2 out of the Driverack to your tops, then use it's crossover etc... and run Ch3 to the amp for the sub.

                          We LOVE this setup for our small shows.
                          <div class="signaturecontainer"><b><font face="Tahoma">Boston Common Band - <a href="http://www.BostonCommonBand.com" target="_blank">Boston Wedding Bands</a></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Sound</font></b>: <font size="1">DB Tech DVA T4's with RCF TTS18a Subs | QSC Wideline GP218 Sub for Big Events | RCF TT08a &amp; RCF ART710a Monitors</font><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Rack</font></b>: <font size="1">A&amp;H QU16 | (2) Summit Audio TLA-50 Tube Compressors | QSC PLX3602 | Furman P2400AR Voltage Regulators</font><br><b><font color="DarkRed">Lighting</font></b>: <font size="1">(8) Blizzard HOTBOX's | (2) Blizzard Weather Systems | (2) Chauvet Eclipse RGB + ADJ Hypnotic RGB &amp; Royal 3D Lasers | (4) QSpot360 Moving Heads</font><br><b><a href="http://www.BostonCommonBand.com" target="_blank"><font size="1">Newport RI Wedding Bands</font></a></b></font><br><b><font color="DarkBlue">For Sale</font></b>: <font size="2"><a href="http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Live-Gear/FS-Rack-Gear-Tube-Compressors-and-Mackie-Quad-EQ/m-p/35983107#U35983107">Rack Gear : Tube Compressors (Live/Studio) and Mackie Quad EQ!</a></font></div>

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for all the support ...Just always trying to sound as good as possible ...all the time. How about these dbx powered speaker processors they sell? Make a difference or a waste of money?


                            The DBX Driverack for powered gear (DRPX) is often redundant, unless you don't have any EQ's, and your gear is mismatched. Considering your tops and subs are pretty well matched you're not going to see/hear a lot of difference - and could very easily make things worse in my opinion.

                            Where the Driveracks shine is for unpowered gear where limiting, corssovers, GEQ, and PEQ can come in handy - and all in one box. In your case, Yorkville has basically processed the snot out of your NX55P's, to the point that any more processing might well be counter-productive IMHO.

                            Unless people are telling you your FOH sucks, maybe you should look to other areas to improve. How's your lights, website, merchandise, haircuts, clothes, song list, booking skills, keyboard patches, guitar tone, stage patter....

                            do you regularly tape your shows. Maybe a zoom recorder will get you more mileage, who knows...

                            Lots of other facets to ponder - yea I know, not as much fun as switching out PA gear, but it all adds up.

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                            • #15
                              does it make everything sound "OMG AWESOME??". Well, no. But it does make things quite a bit easier.


                              Slight difference in our opinions. The 260 has the capability of making it sound every bit as good as separate crossovers, GEQ, PEQ, FBS, Compression, Limiting, Sub Harmonic Synths, etc...

                              It will not make the sound great out of the box but properly configured it will sound as good as any separate piece of gear added to the system, in a much smaller package.
                              <div class="signaturecontainer"><b><font size="2">&quot;The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.&quot;</font></b> - <i>Hunter S. Thompson</i><br />
                              <br />
                              Band promo shots on railroad tracks were cool in 1981...<img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/facepalm.gif" border="0" alt="" title="facepalm" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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