Members ChiroVette Posted October 23, 2012 Members Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hey everyone. I know I asked about that Neumman mic a bit back, but I decided to heed your sage advice and not buy that one. Anyway, at my last show I had my old EV ND 767 just up and DIE on me and had to borrow one of the drummer's instrument mics just to get through the rest of the show. Anyway, I love the EV mic, but I also know that the SM58 is industry standard. The Beta58 is considered a step above. and the ND767 is also a mic with a great rep. I am going to head out to Guitar Center this weekend to try them all and any others, but here is my question: What mics do you guys prefer? I will make this a poll. If you choose "other" then please, please, please post the mic you chose and why! lol Don't just click the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby1Note Posted October 23, 2012 Members Share Posted October 23, 2012 Where's the Poll? I like the Sennheiser e945,,, roughly $220. (super-cardioid dynamic). Great bottom-end, while retaining good intelligibility. The e935 is $40. less, and it's a cardioid dynamic. A little more forgiving of bad technique than the e945. Very tight pick-up pattern. Both are great mics for that price. You might wanna try the Blue en*CORE 300, at roughly $199. (condenser) American Idol was using those as their stage-mics last year (or maybe the year prior) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Louis Schwartz Posted October 23, 2012 Members Share Posted October 23, 2012 If you dig around you'll find the threads here and on the acousticguitar forum where I shared my own little search for a vocal mic. In a nutshell, I started off with an SM58 and used that for a while, then eventually I tried a whole bunch of the usual suspects for stage vocal use in this price range, and finally settled on a Heil PR35. Vocal mics can be very voice-specific (there were plenty that I tried on the recommendations of others that just did nothing special for my voice). For me, the best mics I tried were the 767a, which I used for quite a while, then the PR35, which was love at first try and has remained my main lead vocal mic ever since. I first heard it being used at a local small venue by Dave Alvin, and the sound the sound lady was getting on his voice that night made me feel I just had to try the Heil. But try as many mics as you can. Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChiroVette Posted October 24, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Bobby1Note Where's the Poll? Ugh! I am a moron! A microsecond after hitting "submit" to create the thread, I realized I forgot to create the poll. I then tried to edit this one to add the poll, but no go. I then tried to delete this thread and start all over. lol Oh well. NO poll, but you can still post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miko Man Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 The suggestion to try as many vocal mics as you can, to see what sounds good for your voice, is good advice. I respectfully suggest that there is no one "magic mic" that works for every voice, especially in a live setting. If there was one "magic mic", wouldn't it be the go-to mic for everybody? Mark C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Miko Man The suggestion to try as many vocal mics as you can, to see what sounds good for your voice, is good advice. I respectfully suggest that there is no one "magic mic" that works for every voice, especially in a live setting. If there was one "magic mic", wouldn't it be the go-to mic for everybody? Mark C. +1Mics fit voices like wearing clothes that fit properly. Given that, a few potential candidatesSenn 935/945Beta 58/86/87Heil PR35EV 767/967AT4100 and I'm sure some others will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axisplayer Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 The best mic for under $250 is the one you prefer after trying everything available to you. If you haven't done that yet, you won't know if you found the best mic. There are no rules beyond: Buy something from a reuptable manufacturer in case you need service. Buy something durable for a live mic. Avoid omni unless you play really quiet stages. I think I am done. everything else is fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratGuy22 Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 I like the SM58. It's pattern lets me run one monitor per mic, right behind the mic. The Beta58 is more for 2 monitors per mic at 45 degree angles... I like to keep it simple. My other vocal are a Line6 XD-V70, and a V75, which work great as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rbts Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Love me some Beta 87 C for MY vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bugzie Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 I use the PR 35 as my go to mic. The Senn 935 and 945 are right there also. Trying out a PR 35 is tough as I rarely see them available in my area. The 935 is available at most GC's for a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members srp72ee Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 I like the Audio-Technica ATM-710's. I have 4 of them. Anything from podium mics to handheld vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gruven65 Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 I love my Beta 87a, too. It sounds a little smoother on top than my Beta 57a and 58a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 I tried the PR-35 and really did not care for it. There is no best mic, there are better mics for one application over another but you need to define what your application is and how the stage set-up and acoustics might interact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Originally Posted by ChiroVette Hey everyone. I know I asked about that Neumman mic a bit back, but I decided to heed your sage advice and not buy that one. Anyway, at my last show I had my old EV ND 767 just up and DIE on me and had to borrow one of the drummer's instrument mics just to get through the rest of the show. Anyway, I love the EV mic, but I also know that the SM58 is industry standard. The Beta58 is considered a step above. and the ND767 is also a mic with a great rep. I am going to head out to Guitar Center this weekend to try them all and any others, but here is my question:What mics do you guys prefer?I will make this a poll. If you choose "other" then please, please, please post the mic you chose and why! lol Don't just click the choice. Maybe the question should be what are some good mics for me to try that are under $250.00 dollars. My answer would be once you've tried them all in the store then you might have a totally different opinion on the gig.I have SM58's, Beta58's and E835's. I can generally accomplish something with one of those mics. But as you can see there are plenty of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rezrover Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 D112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bugzie Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 What was it that you didn't care for on the PR35 Andy? You've got me really curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChiroVette Posted October 24, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Originally Posted by agedhorse I tried the PR-35 and really did not care for it.There is no best mic, there are better mics for one application over another but you need to define what your application is and how the stage set-up and acoustics might interact. I completely understand what you're saying, but I don't have the luxury of trying to buy five different mics and attempt to anticipate which bar gig each one would be optimally suited for. lol Not trying to bust your balls (well, okay, maybe a little ) but I really need to settle on one vocal mic. I also realize that I have sort of painted myself into the proverbial corner here, because as some have said, there may indeed be "no perfect mic" or everyone would buy that one, right? Now the equation is further complicated by Shaster's point that once I try out a bunch of mics in the store they may not be the same on gigs.In short, not trying to be a whining bitch here, but I am now more confused than before I created the thread. lol Thanks a lot, you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Louis Schwartz Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Originally Posted by ChiroVette I completely understand what you're saying, but I don't have the luxury of trying to buy five different mics and attempt to anticipate which bar gig each one would be optimally suited for. lol Not trying to bust your balls (well, okay, maybe a little ) but I really need to settle on one vocal mic. I also realize that I have sort of painted myself into the proverbial corner here, because as some have said, there may indeed be "no perfect mic" or everyone would buy that one, right? Now the equation is further complicated by Shaster's point that once I try out a bunch of mics in the store they may not be the same on gigs.In short, not trying to be a whining bitch here, but I am now more confused than before I created the thread. lol Thanks a lot, you guys! It's not that complicated, really. Just try out a bunch of the mics that are available to you locally, and buy the one that you like best in your price range! Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Originally Posted by Bugzie What was it that you didn't care for on the PR35 Andy? You've got me really curious. Kind of noisy handling, and picked up LF transmitted through their standard clip from the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gruven65 Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Originally Posted by agedhorse Kind of noisy handling, and picked up LF transmitted through their standard clip from the stage. That's the same issue I have with my PR22. I Imagine it would be somewhat tamer on the PR35. I like the way the PR22 sounds, though. Completely different from Shure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rbts Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Um - I bought a Beta 57 - cause I had heard that they were "all that" - bought it through sweetwater sound. I was not that impressed - compared to those I already had - (SM 58, Beta 58, and Beta 87) - so I sent it back - and got my money back. It was all in good faith - they didn't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gruven65 Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Um - I bought a Beta 57 - cause I had heard that they were "all that" - bought it through sweetwater sound. I was not that impressed - compared to those I already had - (SM 58, Beta 58, and Beta 87) - so I sent it back - and got my money back. It was all in good faith - they didn't mind.Sorry for your luck. To my ear, they don't sound much different from the Beta 58a, given you stay off them a little. I don't much care for "eating the mic", so they work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rbts Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Sorry for your luck. To my ear, they don't sound much different from the Beta 58a, given you stay off them a little. I don't much care for "eating the mic", so they work for me. No worries. That was when I was looking for a "golden bullet" - hoping some "Mic" would magically make me sound "better". My "new" opinion is that the best thing you can hope for is a "decent mic" - and a "really good" sound tech. What I was saying though - is that buying a mic that you "think" you want - is not really that scary - if it turns out you "don't" "like it" - you can "send it back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby1Note Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Our local area stores wont take mics back. (hygiene thing). Most have "demo mics" that you can try at the store,,, but when you walk out of the store with one, it's a one-way trip home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rbts Posted October 26, 2012 Members Share Posted October 26, 2012 Our local area stores wont take mics back. (hygiene thing). Most have "demo mics" that you can try at the store,,, but when you walk out of the store with one, it's a one-way trip home. Hmm - yes - I understand the Hygiene Issue. (??) Sweetwater took it back no questions asked. Not sure about Musician's Friend - who I also do a lot of business with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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