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  • Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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    Yup, that 500w into each 150w top ought to shortly solve your speaker issues too by forcing yous guys to buy some new ones - especially as that amp lacks clip limiters .




    I said our underpowered amp problem is solved. I didn't say anything about our crappy speaker problem.
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    • Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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      Yup, that 500w into each 150w top ought to shortly solve your speaker issues too by forcing yous guys to buy some new ones - especially as that amp lacks clip limiters .






      Sometimes one thing leads to another and problems just tend to resolve themselves. Not necessarily in a good way, but resolution nonetheless.
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      • btw, why are you guys recommending 12s instead of 15s? And what do you think about a dual 12 cabinet?
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        • Quote Originally Posted by guitarman3001
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          btw, why are you guys recommending 12s instead of 15s? And what do you think about a dual 12 cabinet?




          Increased clarity (especially vocals) if you're using subs. As far as dual 12's, there's not a lot of quality cabs at prices that mere mortals can afford. I'm sure that once you get up into the higher air where AH and dboomer live, there's some quality stuff in that configuration. But down around the lower end of the farmyard where most of us live, not so much. Plus, single 12's would tend to be more versatile in that they can be used as monitors too.
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          • Quote Originally Posted by lonotes
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            Increased clarity (especially vocals) if you're using subs. As far as dual 12's, there's not a lot of quality cabs at prices that mere mortals can afford. I'm sure that once you get up into the higher air where AH and dboomer live, there's some quality stuff in that configuration. But down around the lower end of the farmyard where most of us live, not so much. Plus, single 12's would tend to be more versatile in that they can be used as monitors too.




            Man, would I love to get tops with a pair of 12's and a horn in the PRX/KW series range.



            My buddy has a bunch of JBL SR4732 cabs that he uses as tops over the old SR4719 boxes and they are just smoking. If I had ground floor storage and a larger vehicle I would totally look for an SR based JBL system on Craigslist.

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            • Quote Originally Posted by ChiroVette
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              If I had ground floor storage and a larger vehicle I would totally look for an SR based JBL system on Craigslist.




              Don't forget a couple of big-arse roadies to schlep them around for yah . They do sound great and are cheap because of their size and weight.

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              • Most sane people want mains you can easily put on speaker stands and want the low frequencies coupled to the floor for fewer cancellations. The dual 15/12" designs don't let you do that.



                With a good subwoofer big mains are only taking up pack space, breaking your back, and blocking sight lines to the stage. The only good reason to have them is when you don't bring subs.
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                • Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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                  Don't forget a couple of big-arse roadies to schlep them around for yah . They do sound great and are cheap because of their size and weight.




                  You know what, though? With ground floor storage and the right vehicle I wouldn't mind doing the major amount of lifting. I already cart around my old MR835's and MR805s which aren't that much lighter than the SR stuff. When I played in a band with my buddy who has the SR gear, I had no problems lifting those cabs myself. It would honestly be worth it!

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                  • ^ Go for it - used they are a great deal if you have the back for them .

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                    • Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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                      ^ Go for it - used they are a great deal if you have the back for them .




                      Yeah, but again, I don't have the ground floor storage. There is no way I could get those speakers into my basement by myself. My stairway leading to the basement is very steep and very narrow with a giant support you have to really duck under when you enter and exit. Since my entire band lives on Long Island, all our gigs are in Long Island, and I live in Brooklyn. So, if I had, say a garage in the backyard, then I would say screw it and just buy a van. I could probably score an unbelievable deal on old SR cabinets. I see them all the time going for cheap on Craigslist, sometimes even on eBay.



                      Edit: Seriously, how awesome a deal is this and how amazing would a system built around these sound?



                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/JBL-SR4732-3...item3a7baadea4



                      That is about $600.00 per cabinet!



                      Edit #2: And this is more my neck of the woods:



                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-JBL-SR4...item460a7ac9de

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                      • Quote Originally Posted by guitarman3001
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                        I said our underpowered amp problem is solved. I didn't say anything about our crappy speaker problem.




                        Actually, you don't have an underpowered amp problem... but you now have an overpowered speaker problem.
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                        • Quote Originally Posted by guitarman3001
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                          btw, why are you guys recommending 12s instead of 15s? And what do you think about a dual 12 cabinet?




                          With subs, you do not need the additional low frequency response that a typical 15" cabinet will deliver (generally at the expense of midrange) but the smaller size, lower weight and better midrange performance (including pattern) are serious benefits if you care about overall results.



                          All of my mid/high cabinets are either 10's or 12's (except for some very expensive 6.5's which the pros here will immediately recognize). I do not own any 15" cabinets that I would consider using over subs. I probably have ~70 cabinets in my production inventory, so I do not make my comments casually.
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                          • Quote Originally Posted by agedhorse
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                            Actually, you don't have an underpowered amp problem... but you now have an overpowered speaker problem.




                            I think we've done what we can - time for the school of hard knocks to kick it .

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                            • Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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                              I think we've done what we can - time for the school of hard knocks to kick it .




                              I wouldn't say that. You guys are making very compelling comments, and I think that you have reached the guitarman and are continuing to do so. You can't expect a man to lose all preconceptions at once. It sometimes happens in stages. But you guys are helping him out a great deal.

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                              • Quote Originally Posted by agedhorse
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                                Actually, you don't have an underpowered amp problem... but you now have an overpowered speaker problem.




                                lol.... if we're not loud enough for the room, part of the problem is an underpowered amp. At least that's the way I see it. Basically, we have two major contributing factors to the problem (at least the problem being addressed on this thread) - which is not enough volume. The two main contributing factors are an underpowered amp and crappy speakers. We've solved the power problem, although now we have overpowered speakers which doesn't immediately resolve our lack of volume problem, but at least it's one of the two factors that need to be fixed in order to resolve the problem entirely.
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