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    Just caught part of the concert on TV. Watched Bruce Springsteen with John Bon Jovi. Both of them cupped their wireless units so high on the grill you almost couldn't see the grill at all. Good engineers or good mics or?????? I would have thought with all that stage experience, you wouldn't see that. Wrong again.

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    Monkey see, monkey do.

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    • #3
      At that level the sound crew can make a fart sound like a symphony! Was it me or was BonJovi's mic level low?

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        Quote Originally Posted by Bugzie
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        At that level the sound crew can make a fart sound like a symphony! Was it me or was BonJovi's mic level low?




        Nope, you're correct

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          lipsync
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            IEM's? I didnt see Bruce using them, but Jon was...

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              Quote Originally Posted by frankthomson
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              lipsync




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                Quote Originally Posted by dcastar
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                This.




                I doubt that very much, particularly if you're talking about Bon Jovi.



                For starters, he was clearly struggling to hit the high notes when singing the choruses on Livin' On A Prayer, to the point that he resorted to masking it by 'allowing' the crowd to sing every other line for him.
                For cripe's sake, somebody buy that kid a freaking DICTIONARY already!

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                • #9
                  anyone know who the sound company was?? Clair probably

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                  • #10
                    Probably the best concert sound I have ever heard. Hat's off to Clapton and Keyes for 'keeping it real' if you know what I mean.
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                      Quote Originally Posted by kmart
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                      I doubt that very much, particularly if you're talking about Bon Jovi.



                      For starters, he was clearly struggling to hit the high notes when singing the choruses on Livin' On A Prayer, to the point that he resorted to masking it by 'allowing' the crowd to sing every other line for him.




                      I recall seeing a video about this somewhere. Basically during the late 80s/early 90s he was struggling so much with the high notes that the keyboard player was singing most of it.
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                        Quote Originally Posted by KellyMainEvent
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                        anyone know who the sound company was?? Clair probably






                        The main Audio supplier was Firehouse Productions who was using the new JBL VTX rig with additional support from Harmon (supplying more JBL VTX and Crown Itech-HD). The bands did bring in there production company for support: Solotech (Springsteen); Clair (Joel, McCartney, Bon Jovi, Stones, Waters, Who, Keys); Eighth Day Sound (West, Martin) (Coldplay); Delicate Productions (Dave Grohl of Foo Fighters/Nirvana); and Rat Sound (Vedder).



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                        • #13
                          OK, I'm just being curious here. I had recorded part of the 121212 concert last week and over the weekend watched a bit of it again. The SR for the Bon Jovi / Springsteen set was indeed outstanding especially considering there were (I'm doing this from memory) two "full" drum kits presumably both fully mic'd, a backline of four horns on the left each with a instrument pickup and a stage mic and 4-5 vocalists on the right each with stage mics, numerous mic'd amps, and a frontline of 4-5 instruments and stage mics -- not to mention ~15-20 sets of in-ears. Now I'd be the last noob to cast doubt on the abilities of some of the experienced brethren on this forum but is it even possible that one master wizard was able to run the entire show by themselves? I mean I'd assume there was definitely one master engineer responsible for the overall product but I wouldn't be surprised that for a gig of that scale there would typically be a team of sub engineers -- one for the drum kits, one for the backline, etc, etc, all feeding to and under the direction of the "master". Yes I'm sure they did a very extensive rehearsal/ sound check in the empty hall and even had a reasonably good estimate of what covering all of the horizontal surfaces with clothed humans would do to the dynamics of the room but still. Again, just being curious today.



                          And yes, this is my very first post after lurking and learning here for almost a year now. It would be hard to overstate how much I've learned during this period and I offer a sincere thanks to all that contribute and especially Craig for keeping it all constructive and civil.
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                          • #14
                            Good question.



                            Generally, there will be a FOH engineer, a monitor engineer, a systems engineer or two, a patch monkey, and a broadcast mix engineer or two.



                            Yes, occassionally, there will be some sharing of mixing duties, but that depends on how and what is being done and the personalities involved.
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                            • #15
                              Welcome aboard, db. Congrats on joining the scene. Mark C.
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