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  • Tomm Williams
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    Audiopile DUS speakers

    See they're offering these in near future, anybody familiar with them? No pricing as of yet.

  • Gordon Sound
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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    But in any case quite weird that they aren't using a JBL driver .




    http://www.jblselenium.com/marcas/home.php

    Selenium is now JBL Selenium

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  • RoadRanger
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    Hmm...

    I see a 18SWS1100 with a 9.3mm xmax

    and a 18SWS800 with a 6.5mm xmax

    and also a 18SWS600 with a 3.8mm xmax ?



    But in any case quite weird that they aren't using a JBL driver .

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  • agedhorse
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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    ^ I was wondering where they got that 800w driver from without it being one of the differential drive ones. Kinda sad that more and more manufacturers are just making up their specs .




    Worse than that...



    The sample I saw had a 2242HPL, but it looks like they are now using a Selenium 18SWS1000W (varient) which is rated in Brazilian watts at 1000, but 800AES. IMO, the AES number is a new rating scale that only requires survival for 2 hours. Frankly, I would find a 2 hour lifespan to be impractical in the real world. With the Xmax that's specified, without the proper HPF you will exceed LF-Xmax well before 800 watts. With the proper HPF and limiting, I would recommend around 800-900 watts. Without, stick closer to 500 watts.

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  • RoadRanger
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    ^ I was wondering where they got that 800w driver from without it being one of the differential drive ones. Kinda sad that more and more manufacturers are just making up their specs .

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  • agedhorse
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    I can't think of an amp that isn't stoopid expensive that would overpower a 4 ohm PRX418S ? Surely the 840W from an IPR3000 isn't too crazy for the 800w rated PRX418S ?




    Without proper processing, I would hesitate to recommend 800+ watts into that driver.



    In fact, IIRC that driver's rating changed from 600 to 800 watts without any other changes. I reconed plenty when they were rated at 600 watts (from folks educated beyond their own intelligence), why would I expect any different with the new rating?



    Even with the proper processing, you are well into the power compression curve at 800 watts. That's the point of diminishing returns.

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  • Unalaska
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    The jbl 4ohm single 18 thing bugs me, just sayin.

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  • soul-x
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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    I can't think of an amp that isn't stoopid expensive that would overpower a 4 ohm PRX418S ? Surely the 840W from an IPR3000 isn't too crazy for the 800w rated PRX418S ?




    Nope, but it's about right... And that's talking about a bottom-of-the market amp.

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  • RoadRanger
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    Quote Originally Posted by agedhorse
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    Nope, with bigger cheap amps it's too risky for speaker manufacturers. That's why we are seeing a shift back towards 8 ohm subs.




    I can't think of an amp that isn't stoopid expensive that would overpower a 4 ohm PRX418S ? Surely the 840W from an IPR3000 isn't too crazy for the 800w rated PRX418S ?

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  • soul-x
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    Quote Originally Posted by agedhorse
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    Nope, with bigger cheap amps it's too risky for speaker manufacturers. That's why we are seeing a shift back towards 8 ohm subs.




    Agree.



    While perhaps not the most absolutely practical, it's what fits the expectations and availability of the market right now.

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  • agedhorse
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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    IMO most 500w+ rated subs should be 4 ohms to better match the available lower priced amps .




    Nope, with bigger cheap amps it's too risky for speaker manufacturers. That's why we are seeing a shift back towards 8 ohm subs.

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  • Consume
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    Quote Originally Posted by dughaze
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    China




    At some point it is ALL going to be made in China. It's hard to compete against Slave Labor.

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  • Vinny D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigv
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    WWWDD (What Would WynnD Do???)




    Haha

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  • Craig Vecchione
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinny D
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    Come to one of the shows I work and I will show you how loud monitors need to be to survive in this jungle!










    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRanger
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    I think I'd stop a couple blocks away and put my earplugs in if I was coming to one of your shows LOL.




    WWWDD (What Would WynnD Do???)

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  • RoadRanger
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    Quote Originally Posted by agedhorse
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    Sorry, I was thinking M-pro and MRX




    IMO most 500w+ rated subs should be 4 ohms to better match the available lower priced amps .

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