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  • #16
    As I said, the Blues Jr is an awesome amp .

    I completely agree... best bang for the buck for the OP's application, even if the FBJr costs more than a hundred dolla dump.

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    • #17
      The Blues Jr is one of the worst sounding amps I've ever played thru. If I knew that was my backup option I would NEVER forget to bring a backup!! Plenty loud, however, as are most 15-20 watt tube amps.
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      • #18
        I'll suggest a Fender Blues JR. That's what I have... and it gets used a lot as a back-up guitar amp. Everybody who's needed to use it seems happy with it, especially considering the alternative (acoustic electric guitar).


        That would be my suggestion as well. I've got one and it's pretty versatile. I see them at many house gigs around town. And one of the roots/blues tone monster guitarists around town has a couple - one modded and one unmodded that he uses for small gigs; sounds great. I just used a Blues Jr. last weekend, and a guitarist I respect very much kept raving about my tone - had to go into the "aw shucks" mode.

        But if the OP is thinking of a Frontman or others around that price point, I would just forget it and look for some kind of direct product instead.

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        • #19
          The Blues Jr is one of the worst sounding amps I've ever played thru. If I knew that was my backup option I would NEVER forget to bring a backup!! Plenty loud, however, as are most 15-20 watt tube amps.


          The Blues Jr seems to divide opinion, as you can tell. Our lead guitarist refuses to play through one; I happen to enjoy the tone.....but if you want something that is cheap, does the job and will let you get by, I would go with the Roland Cube, as suggested by Mr Adams. I played through one at a festival on Sunday, and it was fine - nothing like the tone on my Orange Rocker, but no real problem.

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          • #20
            I think the Peavey Classic 30 is a far superior alternative to the Fender Blues Junior. It's a direct competitor (same features, size, and price range), but a better all-around amp. They can be had fairly reasonably on the used market as well. Fender's current crop of inexpensive solid state amps have been plagued by a lot of reliability issues if the reports are correct. I would steer clear of them for now.

            If your budget is low (~$100 or so), scour the locals and craigslist for a used Peavey Bandit. They're plentiful, very reliable, and cheap. Peavey made them for years and years. They sound... well, like a Peavey Bandit. The newer transtube ones were better, and I believe they even made a modeling version of it for awhile before coming out with the Vypyr series.

            If you're going to supply a guitar amp for guitards without working gear, they shouldn't expect it to be anywhere near top-of-the-line. They should be darn greatful you have anything, even if it's just an overdrive pedal and a direct box.

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            • #21
              As a guitarist, I absolutely HATE Blues Juniors. They sound awful to me. On the other hand, I always bring a backup amp and it wouldn't occur to me to expect the sound company to provide one.

              If you're going to spend $500 I'd get a Peavey Classic or a Hot Rod Deluxe, something a little more versatile that doesn't sound like the north end of a southbound donkey when you turn it up.

              For $100, I would think one of those SansAmp Character pedals would be the way to go. I would think a Frontman 25R would require monitor support anyway, and would sound pretty bad to boot.

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              • #22
                Not for a sound company, but as a guitard my back-up/practice amp is a very old Peavey Studio Pro. Sound is acceptable, to the point I've used it as the main gig amp a number of times. Very reliable, lightweight, and can be purchased used for anywhere from $50-$150 depending on the model/condition. Other than that, I personally wouldn't be interested in using any of the new Fender models that sell for less than $299. IMHO they don't have the sound/build quality. YMMV.
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                • #23
                  Jeez people! He wants a cheap $100 amp to give to the guitarists who forget there amps or whose break down. He isn't supplying backline for acts.

                  Look for an epiphone valve junior (mic'ed of course) or just a di box. Another thing you could look for is a used guitar multi fx pedal that has a line out. Anything is better then the alternative of not being able to play

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                  • #24
                    If you really want to do this (I think it's a waste of time and money myself), the only possible solution is a modelling system of some sort.

                    I am a guitar player. I have a Blues Jr. I also have a Marshall JVM205... and a couple of Oranges... and Peavys... and... (I collect -- I'm eying a Mesa RoadKing right now) I love each amp for what each one does. But they all do something different, and none of them cross many lines well. The only thing that does are modellers. This way a Rectofier player won't have to play through a Fender... or vice versa (I think you'd have a hard time even talking them into giving it a shot)

                    You can find many used ones out there. I have an original Pod and a Tonelabs SE I would gladly sell to ya cheap (you're in Marlboro right? I work near there). But neither of these are amplified. A quick Craig's list search should find you one of the many modeller/amp combos.
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                    • #25
                      If you really want to do this (I think it's a waste of time and money myself), the only possible solution is a modelling system of some sort.

                      I am a guitar player. I have a Blues Jr. I also have a Marshall JVM205... and a couple of Oranges... and Peavys... and... (I collect -- I'm eying a Mesa RoadKing right now) I love each amp for what each one does. But they all do something different, and none of them cross many lines well. The only thing that does are modellers. This way a Rectofier player won't have to play through a Fender... or vice versa (I think you'd have a hard time even talking them into giving it a shot)

                      You can find many used ones out there. I have an original Pod and a Tonelabs SE I would gladly sell to ya cheap (you're in Marlboro right? I work near there). But neither of these are amplified. A quick Craig's list search should find you one of the many modeller/amp combos.
                      That's why my first response was a Valvetronix.
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                      www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
                      -For Sale:
                      -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
                      -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
                      - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
                      - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
                      - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

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                      • #26
                        I should add that I only expect someone to use the clean channel as all bands I support run pedal effects. The guy that ran through a DI sounded fine through the PA. I don't understand why people use expensive tube amps when no one really hears their amp through all the effects.


                        Some of us use the sound of the amp and don't rely on a bunch of FX. I have my own back-up, and NEVER use anyone else's amp. Since I don't rely on (or carry) a bunch of pedals, a clean-only setup is basically useless for me.
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                        • #27
                          Jeez people! He wants a cheap $100 amp to give to the guitarists who forget there amps or whose break down. He isn't supplying backline for acts.

                          Look for an epiphone valve junior (mic'ed of course) or just a di box. Another thing you could look for is a used guitar multi fx pedal that has a line out. Anything is better then the alternative of not being able to play


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                          • #28
                            I would recommend the original line6 pod. Not the XT. The original has less options, but may be more intuitive. They can hear it through the monitor or you can use any powered speaker or power amp and speaker. Write down how to select the Fender, marshall, and vox amps, plus the reverb and tube screamer effects. That should be enough to satisfy someone when in need. (beggars should not be choosers) If they can't be satisfied with that, then take it back and show them the plug to the direct box.

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                            • #29

                              For $100, I would think one of those SansAmp Character pedals would be the way to go. I would think a Frontman 25R would require monitor support anyway, and would sound pretty bad to boot.


                              This is a seriously good idea. So good in fact, it is what I do. I use Vox and Dr. Z amps sized to the gig I am playing. But my backup "amp" is always the Tech 21 Liverpool. It sounds pretty darn close to a real amp and will get me through in an emergency, just run it direct to the board and pipe some back through the monitors. It also fits in my chord bag without taking up any room. For $100, it is cheap insurance and I don't have to haul a backup amp.

                              http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/sansamp/characterseries.html

                              Sometimes I am lazy and use it for practices and small church gigs as my main amp.
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                              • #30
                                I just posted on another thread about covering a band's butt (and my own on a different occasion) with a TECH21 Blonde pedal. I play roots (blues, honky-tonk, rockabilly, etc.) and it it pretty convincing.

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