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  • Kudos for calling yourself an idiot, moody.
    Dale Christenson Sound4U A local sound provider serving Oklahoma and surrounding areas. http://sound4u.co Presonus: RM32ai mixer, CS18ai control surface, SL16.4.2 mixer SL328ai speakers X4 Presonus ULT15 speakers x4 JBL: SRX728 Subs x2 Driverack PA2 (for subs)

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    • I just got back from a gig last night.

      When we got there to set up, it had been raining for several hours and there wasn't any grass, so it was a mud pit. After we dragged all the gear/stage through the mud, we started setting it up. Then I remembered I forgot the tie downs for the stack. We were going to start in 30 mins, and my house it 45 mins away. So we had to go without. We started and got half way through the first set with no major advents. I went to go get a drink, and a 10 year old kid walks up to the borrowed PA, and turns off the DRPA, which caused a loud "BANG" that blew every single speaker, caused one of the stacks to fall, and one of the subs even shot a VC at the audience. Never leave your PA unattended around kids.
      Did you kill the little bastard.

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      • I just got back from a gig last night.

        When we got there to set up, it had been raining for several hours and there wasn't any grass, so it was a mud pit. After we dragged all the gear/stage through the mud, we started setting it up. Then I remembered I forgot the tie downs for the stack. We were going to start in 30 mins, and my house it 45 mins away. So we had to go without. We started and got half way through the first set with no major advents. I went to go get a drink, and a 10 year old kid walks up to the borrowed PA, and turns off the DRPA, which caused a loud "BANG" that blew every single speaker, caused one of the stacks to fall, and one of the subs even shot a VC at the audience. Never leave your PA unattended around kids.


        I have my DRPA on a small UPS and I'm considering getting a sheet metal clip fabricated to mount under the rack screws to cover the power switch. I've also considered opening the unit up and bypassing the power switch completely!!!
        Engineering Axiom 21: Whomever has the key should be qualified.

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        • A properly sized amp won't damage a sub driver from a transient like that. Actually won't damage any driver except for possibly a HF driver unless grossly powered.

          Remember my comments about unexpected accidents? Good to learn from other people's misfortune rather than your own.
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          • Today, a (pro) throw-together band is playing a large festival I am doing and the bandleader places set lists for the guys, but it's all songs they haven't played together or in some cases didn't even know. He did it just to see the expressions on their faces... nobody wanted to admit they didn't know what was going on and the band leader milked it for what it was worth. Nicely played joke, I'm sure the rest of the band will eventually get even.



            Yeah, payback's a bitch....like when the rest of the band starts playing every song a half-step up or down from the correct key......
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            • I'm sure everyone's had this happen at least once.

              I'm mixing a charity event in a community hall to a crowd of maybe 300, multiple young rock and metal bands on the bill with little to no time set aside for changeover.

              The third band finishes their set and start frantically throwing their **************** off the stage while the fourth is rushing to get their **************** on stage and working. I swap the mics on the kit and rearrange guitar and vocal mics and plug in the bass DI as soon as the fourth band is on stage and in position.

              I head back to FOH and wait for the band to get ready. I get the drummer to give me a quick line check (one of the tom mics sounded fuzzy for the last band so I had the drummer give me some quick hits to check it through headphones... the mic was fine) and as I'm doing that this extremely loud, high pitched feedback comes out of nowhere and EVERYBODY (including the band) turns and looks at me, holding their ears. Knowing exactly what it was I stand there and do nothing, someone behind me shouts at me "DUDE WHAT THE ****************"

              I calmly grab the talkback mic and say "Could the guitarist please mute his guitar." He does and the feedback stops...

              ... TOTALLY my fault.

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              • Luckily I was only in attendance at this event...I had nothing to do with the sound...

                In between sets, one of the performers needed to used the mens room. While in the mens room his wireless pack was accidently switched on. The SR guy also took a break and was not at the board when the mic was turned on. Needless to say, I don't know what brand the mic was, but it picked up everything! The crowd was about in tears laughing when he came out. Luckily he was a good sport about it and was able to poke fun at himself when he returned to the stage.
                Engineering Axiom 21: Whomever has the key should be qualified.

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                • Luckily I was only in attendance at this event...I had nothing to do with the sound...

                  In between sets, one of the performers needed to used the mens room. While in the mens room his wireless pack was accidently switched on. The SR guy also took a break and was not at the board when the mic was turned on. Needless to say, I don't know what brand the mic was, but it picked up everything! The crowd was about in tears laughing when he came out. Luckily he was a good sport about it and was able to poke fun at himself when he returned to the stage.



                  It could have turned out worse...

                  Two of the bandmates could have been having a conversation together in the mens room :


                  ''F_ckin' ****************ty crowd tonight eh John?''

                  ''No ****************. See that group of fat chicks at the first table?''

                  ''Never mind the fat chicks, every idiot in this crowd looks like the result of redneck relatives having orgies.''

                  ''No ****************!... Oh God, did you see the look on the manager's face when I asked for our money up front. That fat f_ck and his even fatter wife didn't even notice we've been stealing **************** from their bar.''

                  ''Morons. I'd do their daughter though...''

                  ''Yeah, I've been checking out that little ho too...''

                  So you ready for the next set?''

                  ''Hell yeah!''

                  Al
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                  • I'll add my 2 cents.
                    our band didn't play out much in the early 90's, and was asked to do a show to help a local online provider. getting online was free but the money we generated and the following we had kept him alive. well he was the website owner and a DJ..... he had the lights, big pa, and "other stuff"
                    we had a few cabinets and a poweredbox. well he offered to help(run the board and lights for us. alot of the equipment was his anyway). at the time we never needed a sound guy.
                    well he got such a kick doing it. He pulled all the stops. he decided to try all the presets on a ART FXR unit during our set. yeah it was GREAT. then the disco twirling light came on......Not cool doing a metallica cover unless your at a strip club. then to top it off he had a fog machine that he hit once in a blue moon, which was fine. well having our set list he saw that our last song was highway to hell! What better song to blow the singers voice to shreds after a hard night. well our first "sound guy" hit that damn button of the fog machine soo many times, you could not even see us. we got this gig I might add at a low income housing complex that had a nice room with a little stage for valentines dance. surrounded by apartment all around. well he hit that button one too many times and somehow the fire alarm goes off at the end of the song. people are running for the door! the fire department shows up....no key to unlock the panel to shut off the alarm. 35 min later the maintenance guy on call shows up. the alarm still going off. just a few of us still there(yes I tore down the equipment during that time.) and the guy just walks bye me with a glare..... needless to say we did a few shows for the guy, and we kept the acessories available to a minimum. But boy did the online chat about that night carried the band for years.

                    I don't have the luck MrKnobs has
                    Jim
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                    • I used to do FOH in a venue that was on what I'd call the Branson circuit. The patrons consisted mainly of older folks (AKA blue hairs (or as one fellow said "it's like swimming in a sea of Q tips)). One night on a particularly low volume show (high volume was 94 - 95 peaks) I kept hearing this upper mid squeal. It seemed like it happened when the singer would walk into the audience (to schmooz) and the band would lay way back and vamp. OK I dial out a touch of 2.5 - 4k and see if that works. The squeal continues throuought the night. My mix was pretty good and sooo low in volume, I just couldn't figure out the feedback (It really sounded like it was the room and not the stage).




                      After the show all channels are muted and I'm playing walk out music and one of the customers walks by and adjust their hearing aid and SQUEAL!
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                      • After the show all channels are muted and I'm playing walk out music and one of the customers walks by and adjust their hearing aid and SQUEAL!

                        Yup, this happens with my lighting designer's hearing aid too. Drives me absolutely nuts when it happens.
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                        • well, this one isn't actually live sound-related, but it was A/V for an event i was working, so maybe that counts...


                          we set up a projector that was running a powerpoint presentation, and we also ran a line to a confidence monitor next to the speaker's podium. for some reason, we could get a picture, but it was very dim with no actual color. i think we spent an hour trying to figure it out. we tried another monitor, same problem. tried reversing the horizontal and vertical at both ends of the snake, only made things worse. we tried 3 or 4 different BNC-->VGA connectors, none of those worked. after all that, we finally decided to try running another 100' cable from FOH to the monitor....still didn't work!

                          finally someone noticed that 3 of the BNC barrels we were using to connect the cable to the VGA adaptor were basically just shells, with nothing electrically connecting them!
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                          • I've had a broken/missing VGA pin on a source cause odd problems... unfortunately it's impossible to fix a broken pin when there is no backup machine.
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                            • I was doing sound for this solo-acoustic guy the other week and he said to me down the mic "okay for this track i need loads of vocal reverb and delay - i want it to sound massive"

                              So there i am, poised at my lexicon & auxiliary sends for when he begins the track...

                              Then he carries on speaking saying "Wheres the reverb and delay, i need more? come on hurry up!" and generally getting arsey.

                              Anyway i gave in and just thought i'd let him introduce the song awash with about 10seconds of delay
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                              • Today, a (pro) throw-together band is playing a large festival I am doing and the bandleader places set lists for the guys, but it's all songs they haven't played together or in some cases didn't even know. He did it just to see the expressions on their faces... nobody wanted to admit they didn't know what was going on and the band leader milked it for what it was worth. Nicely played joke, I'm sure the rest of the band will eventually get even.


                                I played with an old bass player who claim to fame was that he knew "half a verse and most of the chorus" of pretty much any pop/rock tune you could name. On really, really dead nights - he'd bet tables drinks that he could cover any request. As the keyboard player ... I was along for the ride. A good round of "Stump the Band" can be fun!
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