Members agedhorse Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 I know that I have discussed this in several threads but thought I would provide a visual example of this as I am finishing up maintenance on one of my own scalable systems. They are used in anything from 3 over 3 per side on top of subs to flying a distributed system around an arena, to a bunch of high quality speaker on sticks depending on need. All are 10" x 2 way with ATM Flyware and speaker butt plugs on every cabinet. It was a cabinet I designed 17 years ago as a tourable installation type product for conference and convention work as well as live theatre. These cabinets earn a good living every year and have required almost nothing in repairs over the 15 years. Plenty of life left in them so they will continue to earn money without ongoing costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldschooler Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 Andy, it just proves new is not always better. Having decent gear will always make money, where as crappy gear will always be crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 agedhorse wrote: [...] and speaker butt plugs on every cabinet. Do I want to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 Oh, and as a fan of 10" two way cabs - how do you power them and what are their specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 15, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 Approx 90 x 60. The horn patterns are relatively uniform and combine with minimal unobtrusive comb filtering effect. Not an issue in practice. The boxes are only 12" wide which helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 agedhorse wrote: Approx 90 x 60. The horn patterns are relatively uniform and combine with minimal unobtrusive comb filtering effect. Not an issue in practice. The boxes are only 12" wide which helps. How much do they weigh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 Who built them? They look very nice, def would like to try 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 15, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 Mogwix wrote: Who built them? They look very nice, def would like to try 'em. It was a commercial/install product that I designed for Genz Benz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 16, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2013 Single 10 but built so that they stack horn to horn and the normal pullback points can be used with a flat bar coupler to lock the cabinets together. Fairly potent for the size and wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted February 16, 2013 Members Share Posted February 16, 2013 That's cool, seems that for their size a 12 might be more sensitive but it works great so why not. I have a friend who had a McCauley rig with dual 12x2" over duals, all boxes were 8hm (16ohm drivers), made it easy to be powered by a pair of crest 8001s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rob_H Posted February 17, 2013 Members Share Posted February 17, 2013 agedhorse wrote: Single 10 but built so that they stack horn to horn and the normal pullback points can be used with a flat bar coupler to lock the cabinets together. Fairly potent for the size and wright. I really like your approch here, Are there any current products you see as a good foundation to start building with? There is just so much out there right now it is pretty easy to go down a bad path. With the speakers I currently have scalabilty is not an option but I also bought it with the mindset it would easily work as side wash or practice gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pro Sound Guy Posted February 18, 2013 Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 Very nice! Stuff that Altec Lansing designed 50 years ago is still great stuff! (or longer)Stuff that JBL designed from waaaay back is still great stuff!You can still implement an A7 cabinet with a 291 16ohm compression driver and an Altec Mantary horn and have great results.!You can still implement a JBL 2" driver on a bi directional horn with a horn loaded 15" driver and getgreat results!Many companies and designers still copy Altec and JBL and their ideas to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audiopile Posted February 18, 2013 Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 I run a couple of different scalable systems.1) Meyer UPA: I have 12ea. UPA-1A's, 4ea. 650R2 subs and 4ea. USW subs. This is my "convention room" (or indoor) rig. A couple UPA's and either a 650 or USW per side handles audiences of 50 - 100 tastefully, while the full rig seems suitable for up-to a few hundred.2) Viking Audio: (similar to JBL 4719 & 4732 stacks). 8 stacks of double 18" subs and double 15" & 2" horn cabs. This is my "festival" (or outdoor) rig. A stack a side handles audiences of 100+/- tastefully... 4 stacks a side seems suitable for up-to 5K attendence (or more at times... depending).I suspect my Meyer rig is 15 some-odd years old, and the Viking rig is approx. 10 years old... but I haven't been faced with a customer mandated compelling reason yet to replace any of it with something else (the issue has never come up)... maybe because of the market I'm in, which may be a self fullfilling prophosy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rishabhsachan Posted February 18, 2013 Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 i like the most jal band live performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wasRbts Posted February 18, 2013 Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 Bobby 1 Note, I have 6 Yorkville NX 550 P cabinets and two NX 55 P cabinets (almost identical) - and some powered subs. This works out very well for me also. (Now - your "B" Rig.) Your "A" rig sounds "killer" - especially with all those NX 55P cabinets that you "could use" for different stuff - depending on circumstances. Agedhorse said this: "but since marketing folks are generally pretty far removed from packing and stacking, they fail to see the reality errors of their ways.." - this is just such a killer statement - I wanted to repeat it just for the fun of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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