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  • drumstix
    started a topic New line, Presonus powered speakers

    New line, Presonus powered speakers

    First thought was, oh-hum gee, yet another powered speaker. Then as I read a little more in to it my eyes started getting bigger.
    http://presonus.com/products/Live-Sound-Reinforcement
     
    First I see that Personus is working with David Gunness of Fulcrum. That really got my attention! I guess we will see and hope to hear this tuning in this line. Ive heard a few Fulcrum speakers and they sound absolutely amazing! And the price tag shows this too.
    There is also some (or not) cool features programed into the DSP. Like a 31 band adjustable EQ and or a PEQ filter that both are programable via ipad/laptop to tune to the room. Wireless as well as Ethernet connections.
     
    The three way box with the 8" woofers and coax compression driver really has my curiousty hat on.

  • Telecruiser
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    Originally posted by Doug-_BITn View Post
    ...... They are a bit bulky/heavy for transporting but worth it.
    I do a single act and I'm curious about the 312AI's but at 62# ea. they would be almost twice the weight of my PRX 612's. At 67, getting them up on the poles would be an effort.

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  • Doug-_BITn
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    I have a pair of 328AI's and 18sAI's. Using in a 5 piece Country Band and they are no doubt worth the $$. They are a bit bulky/heavy for transporting but worth it. Now because I am tired of being the sole Sound guy/Guitar Player I just purchased a set of EVOX 12's. I was skeptical giving up the Presonus for the EVOX but still have both systems. Side by Side the EVOX 12's are hands down better sounding from every aspect. Hi's, Mids and Lows are much more precise and articulit. Had other format RCF's before but the EVOX 12's are now my go to. Presonus's are up for sale. Again Presonus AI's are great but EVOX 12's are much better.

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  • StratGuy22
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    That sounds like the mobile stage our town has...

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  • dbMontana
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    StratGuy -- they sounded absolutely phenomenal to my ears. Very clear and smooth throughout the frequency range, good punch, clear vocals -- kept a nice balance out through a couple hundred feet. The venue was hot-rod show in an asphalt parking lot which may have made some difference I suppose given the hard lower bounding surface and with most all folks wandering around looking at cars instead of flooding the stage soaking up sound. Likewise the stage was a trailer with one wall that hydraulically hinged outward to form an awning-like cover over the speaker stacks possibly further enhancing the projection of sound -- kind of a pseudo bandshell-like effect?

    Although "rather inconvenient" it would be really interesting to A/B a similar setup (15" tops over double 18" subs) of say PRX boxes or the like just for comparison -- same band, outdoor stage, etc. I know Miko Man has just such a JBL setup available but arranging such a test would not be trivial. That's why I was hoping Al could arrange to get a pair to test -- experienced ears he has.

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  • StratGuy22
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    How did they sound?

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  • dbMontana
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    OK, sorry guys for bumping this thread once again but I finally got around to looking over the Presonus site and I need to correct my error stated above. The Presonus StudioLive 315AI speakers do indeed have a "typical" 90x60 nominal coverage at -6dB and NOT 60 degrees horizontal as the owner told me at the time and I reported above. I did note that he seemed more up on the marketing babble that truly understanding the ramifications but I guess he couldn't even get the babble correct. Apologies -- I'll try to verify before posting next time. To be honest I sort of believed it as the coverage did seem rather more directional that I've noticed previously.

    Also Al, I love my DXR12's as well but really wonder where the designers heads were when they chose that fragile finish. I used them last week to do a 5th grade talent show outside and the cabs got a bit dusty sitting on the corners of the stage not to mention smudged by many tiny/clammy fingers (I caught one kid writing his name in the dust!). The good news is they did cleanup with a damp cloth but the finger grease was clearly visible (and unremovable with just water) while wet. Once dry the smudges are not visible but sheeesh!

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  • Al Poulin
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    Originally posted by dbMontana View Post
    So Al, any chance you can get your hands on a set of these to test with your ears? I'd be very interested to read your impressions.

    At 3500$ + tax for a pair of 15s, I doubt I'd be able to get a pair home to test. The store that sells Presonus is a few hours from me and although I do occasionally deal with him, I would likely have to make the trip down to test them out in store. I think this is a type of speaker that would have to be tested in a demanding live sound situation to truly see how much better they really are vs. the DSR, PRX, KW, ETX of the MI world. For my needs, I've found the DXR line to deliver the perfect blend of sound quality, output and features. I just wish they had the DSR line-X finish. How much better can the Presonus really sound though? They are a 3 way design, so I guess you should expect better midrange clarity - but for typical smaller DJ and live sound performances, I wonder how many people would notice or care. (except the soung guys). I'll have to visit the North Bay store next time I'm in the area. I'd like to hear the EV ZLX while I'm there and see if they really limit as quickly as many DJs who have tested them say. :-) You can be sure I will report if/when I do.

    Al

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  • Craig Vecchione
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    I may see if I can snag a system. Been wanting to try the SL mixers anyway.

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  • dbMontana
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    Bump of an old thread rather that starting/hijacking a newer one...

    So last Saturday I went out and watched a really good classic-rock band I've mixed several times before and know the members and their sound quite well. The gig was outside for about 300+ folks and they used their new Presonus AI system -- 16.4.2 AI with two 18" subs and a single 15" three way (coaxial med and horn) per side. All I can say is I know these guy's sound and I was truly impressed with the clarity and punch of the system overall. The PA owner was eager to show me around the AI functions including the iPad control of each speaker -- not sure my ears can hear something for the eight PEQs and a 31-band GEQ per cab to do but coupled with SMAART tools to guide calibration it certainly could be useful in certain circumstances -- moreso indoors than out I suspect. For instance, tuning individual cabs could be very beneficial in an asymmetrical venue like the one I work for.

    To be perfectly honest my impression was that the owner had the marketing babble down a bit better than his understanding of just what practicable difference such a tool might make in the real world of a limited sound check in an occupied bar/restaurant but it is a new system to him so we'll how it gets used see over time. One thing that was quite noticeable (and odd?) was that the tops had a 60 degree horizontal dispersion. Would that be due to some design limitation of the coaxial mid/horn topology? Why the heck else design that way?

    So Al, any chance you can get your hands on a set of these to test with your ears? I'd be very interested to read your impressions.

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  • Sick boy78
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    Most likely China. Why does it matter?

    It would matter to me. It's just my personal preference to not buy something made in china for an obscene amount of money. Made is china is fine, as long as the price reflects it.

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  • Jealousblues
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    Do these have wireless audio or just wireless control of features?

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  • agedhorse
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    2000 watts continuous would not last very long

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  • Pro Sound Guy
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    Looks like an idea taken from JBL Urei/Altec.

    A proven design for sure.

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  • jonthomas
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    What is the price of that line?

    The website is not very forthcoming with actual specs like "weight, SPL, etc." but tells us it has 2000 watts.

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