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  • Where are speakers manufactured

    The ________ brand speakers are made in ________ and assembled in ___________.

    Inquiring mind would like to know about the different brands of speakers

    Keep seeing all these knockoffs you can import direct from China. Assuming they are just copies.

    Thoughts and knowledge?


  • #2

    Parts and pieces come from all over.  Almost nothing is made in any single country anymore (China included)

    Don Boomer

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    • lonotes
      lonotes commented
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      dboomer wrote:

      Almost nothing is made in any single country anymore (China included)


      Not so. For instance, I am a very large producer of nothing. And it is sourced 100% from domestic parts and materials.


    • remarkable1967
      remarkable1967 commented
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      Hi Don,

      Just spotted you on here. Completely off subject. Just wanted to thank you for the advice on the Line 6 XD-V75 mic. Been using it for a few a few months now. Beautiful piece of kit.

       

      many thanks.....................Mark


  • #3
    Over at PSW, there is a posting from a guy who bought 6 JBL 712m's............all fake. Guess he's going through efforts to recoupe his money.

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    • agedhorse
      agedhorse commented
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      Tomm Williams wrote:
      Over at PSW, there is a posting from a guy who bought 6 JBL 712m's............all fake. Guess he's going through efforts to recoupe his money.


      When it's done to save money, and the deal is too good to be true... it serves him right.

      However, if they were bought used and he paid fair market value, or bought new from a dealer representing them as genuine product, the fakes can be very difficult to tell without knowing what the real ones are made from and you have to take them apart (or weigh them) to be sure. If this is the case, it's too bad because he would have a reasonable expectation that he was playing fair and got taken.


  • #4
    They counterfeit all kinds of stuff, this just shows why you have to be careful. Airplane parts anyone?
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    Former product development engineer: Genz Benz, a KMC Music/Fender Musical Instruments Company, continuing factory level product support and service for Genz Benz

    Currently product development engineer: Mesa Boogie

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  • #5
    I have a friend who found counterfeit Fenders being sold cheap. He ordered a copy of a Tele and showed it to me when he received it . Fender logo and all.....it actually looked well built. I'd bet 9 out of 10 folks wouldn't know it was fake. This same site had SRX boxes and Senn wireless units for sale.

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    • #6
      It sure looks like the real ones, how can you really know if this are the original ones? By the Price? Over my place I've seen Jbl cabinets that are clones 100%, how do I know that are clones? Cause the salesman tells me cause I'm always buying from them, but I actually didn't heard them besides they don't weight nothing so maybe it's neodymium inside them too

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      • soulx
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        JV90 wrote:
        It sure looks like the real ones, how can you really know if this are the original ones? By the Price? Over my place I've seen Jbl cabinets that are clones 100%, how do I know that are clones? Cause the salesman tells me cause I'm always buying from them, but I actually didn't heard them besides they don't weight nothing so maybe it's neodymium inside them too


        Seriously, don't ever by from that guy again. I'd also take a real good look at anything you have previously purchased from him.


      • Tomm Williams
        Tomm Williams commented
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        JV90 wrote:
        It sure looks like the real ones, how can you really know if this are the original ones? By the Price? Over my place I've seen Jbl cabinets that are clones 100%, how do I know that are clones? Cause the salesman tells me cause I'm always buying from them, but I actually didn't heard them besides they don't weight nothing so maybe it's neodymium inside them too

        Do you mean clones as copying the design or being made to look like genuine JBL?


      • agedhorse
        agedhorse commented
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        JV90 wrote:
        It sure looks like the real ones, how can you really know if this are the original ones? By the Price? Over my place I've seen Jbl cabinets that are clones 100%, how do I know that are clones? Cause the salesman tells me cause I'm always buying from them, but I actually didn't heard them besides they don't weight nothing so maybe it's neodymium inside them too

        This makes me sick. The salesman is selling something that he knows is counterfeit and you are buying from him rewarding this disgusting behavior. There is no excuse for knowingly selling, or buying counterfeit products.


    • #7
      Exactly as the photos, but I've haven't heard them...

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      • #8
        Yes, but I buy from them the beta 3 stuff that I like instead, so they offer that clones, but I don't want to get them because they tell me that are the clones ones, what the people does according to them is to buy that cabinets to install rcf, Jbl, ev, peavey, eminence speakers, to get better performance, I'm not sure if they achieve that, but? I really prefer to get my elder audio stuff, the cost are lower, the performance ratio is adequate for my job

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        • sibyrnes
          sibyrnes commented
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          JV90 wrote:
          Yes, but I buy from them the beta 3 stuff that I like instead, so they offer that clones, but I don't want to get them because they tell me that are the clones ones, what the people does according to them is to buy that cabinets to install rcf, Jbl, ev, peavey, eminence speakers, to get better performance, I'm not sure if they achieve that, but? I really prefer to get my elder audio stuff, the cost are lower, the performance ratio is adequate for my job

          I don't have a clue what you are saying!   What is "beta 3"?  What is "elder stuff"?


      • #9
        And if a brand proved me that it can work? I stick with them,

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      • #10
        Another Chinese company making boxes that look pretty good but have no track record anywhere that I am familiar with. Like we are seeing in other products, you really have no idea what you are getting though some may be ok, some may not be.
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        Former product development engineer: Genz Benz, a KMC Music/Fender Musical Instruments Company, continuing factory level product support and service for Genz Benz

        Currently product development engineer: Mesa Boogie

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        • #11
          I'm located in Ecuador South America, and yes, beta 3 (elder audio) is a Chinese company that builds good powered speakers(at least the ones that I have had proved to me they are good, I only know that omnisistem over the USA carries some models)

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          • #12
            That's right mrcpro, I still have that keyboard and played with it, it happens that I still like the sound that keyboard have, the 76 keys, weight, and a good master keyboard for my setup, I played over the JV80 too but when the jv90 came out, I grab one of them and become one of my favorite synthetic.... I guess that you used to deal with an mc50 mrcpro?

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            • mrcpro
              mrcpro commented
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              JV90 wrote:
              I guess that you used to deal with an mc50 mrcpro?

              MC80. I've been around for awhile. During my time here in HC I've lost half my post count, and more recently my avatar


          • #13
            Agedhorse, hope you find some beta 3 cabinets over the USA and heard them, of course they are not martin, Meyer, Claire, eaw, nexo and so others, but, over here in southamerica they are a respected brand, and are on the leagues of mackie, behringer, Samson, middle class mi products that works and they handle

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            • Tomm Williams
              Tomm Williams commented
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              Those of us old enough to remember may recall when "Made in Japan" was an absolute joke. During the 60's Japan was famous for importing all sorts of crap that was the definition of "disposable" No one is laughing now. China seems to be on the verge of earning the same reputation. However, I don't recall the Japanese so blatantly copying US products. It would be nice if China could just come up with their own designs to compete. I would be curious to hear the fake 712's against the real deal. Don't believe they wouldn't sound as good but it would be interesting.

               


          • #14
            Correct, and when that product goes to market, there is an intent to deceive. That's what I'm saying.

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            • mrcpro
              mrcpro commented
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              I was reading something about this awhile back. The jist of the article was that Chinese fakes are made primarliy for domestic consumption - where the originals are impossible (or impossibly expensive) to get. The Chinese customer is very knowledgable about what they're purchasing. But obviously the caged animal is escaping out into the wild.


              The first clue you might have one of those fake SRX712s is when you try to pick one up:smiley-wtf: I'll bet it weighs over 70 pounds.



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