Members Rumorsband Posted September 11, 2013 Members Share Posted September 11, 2013 Need some help here. I just sold my single 618sXLF sub and bought 2 - 715XLF subs. Why? Space and weight.I know they aren't the same but they sound pretty damn good with my 612's.The new 710's are in. Check the specs...What am I missing? Aren't the specs almost identical to my 612's? The weight, the frequency range etc etc.What if anything do you think I would gain or give up by selling my 612's and getting the 710's?In my thinking - I should keep the 612's because I can use these without a sub at small rooms and might get a fuller sound out of the 12's. On the other hand I have usually keep a 2 speaker size difference between the subs I buy and the tops ..18" sub - 12" tops ...so based on that only the 10's would be logical - but why waste the money if the 12's are almost the same.The 712's go lower than the 612's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted September 11, 2013 Members Share Posted September 11, 2013 You're overthinking this. Keep what you've got and spend that money on something you really need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 11, 2013 Members Share Posted September 11, 2013 If I didn't already have almost five RCF 310A's I'd be very interested in the 710's ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 11, 2013 Members Share Posted September 11, 2013 mrcpro wrote: You're overthinking this. Keep what you've got and spend that money on something you really need. Yah, like any of us ever followed that advice LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rumorsband Posted September 11, 2013 Author Members Share Posted September 11, 2013 Dont think comparing a 10" to a 12" speaker is overthinking at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 12, 2013 Members Share Posted September 12, 2013 Did you set the input sensitivities the same... not the knob positions which will NOT be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rumorsband Posted September 12, 2013 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2013 I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneEng Posted September 13, 2013 Members Share Posted September 13, 2013 Only which one clips first matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChiroVette Posted September 13, 2013 Members Share Posted September 13, 2013 That brings up another question: I was always told to run my front end (subs and tops) and monitors at full volume at the speakers, turning the volume knobs all the way up and then controlling the actual volume of the FOH and monitor mixes with the faders and auxes. Is this not true, and if so, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 13, 2013 Members Share Posted September 13, 2013 The problem comes from turning the amps sensitivity down to where the drive signal clips before you can reach rated power, or in the case of powered speakers or amps that contain limiting, you will not take advantage of this if you do not have adequate drive electronics headroom from which to subtract limiter gain reduction from. In practice, this end up being around 6-9dB from full sensitivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 13, 2013 Members Share Posted September 13, 2013 Volume is proportional to sensitivity in this context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wesg Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 LF - low frequencyEQ - equalizerHPF - high pass filterYMMV - your mileage may vary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 BYOB - Bring your own beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneEng Posted September 16, 2013 Members Share Posted September 16, 2013 The RCF horn is unusually sweet, especially in the $450 to $1000 market. I haven't heard the 710 yet so I can't comment on the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 21, 2013 Members Share Posted September 21, 2013 OneEng is correct, this is probsbly the best and/or most practical way to get the most useful comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rumorsband Posted September 21, 2013 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2013 I did not eq on separate channels. I did however balance volumes as suggested. Dealer offered me $800 as trade in .... which would be $500 out of pocket plus cost of covers ... even if I sold them outright and got $1000.00 for them I can't see outlaying $400 as a positive ... as my OP stated - they dont weigh any less and it wasn't a knock out kicked the crap out of my 612's ... I can spend money on other things first ...... which BTW is what most said to do ...keep the 612'sI sold the 618xlf for 2 715 xlf and that I think was the right deceision for me anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 22, 2013 Members Share Posted September 22, 2013 Those are a couple of horses that I trained in my spare time!When I encourage understanding and learning how things work and why the pros do things the way they do, it applies to just about everything. Working with horses, just like rigging lights and sound, can be very dangerous (deadly even) or safe but knowledge and experience are critical to being successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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