Members Koopdaddy Posted January 9, 2014 Members Share Posted January 9, 2014 We have been asked to provide sound system for a b52 tribute band for an upcoming fundraiser. They are expecting 500-750 (or more) people attending and the venue room is roughly 44,000 square feet of tile, metal and glass. I have worked with the band before but I am concerned about te size of te room and our system not being enough rig. We have 2 x qsc kw153 and 4 x qsc kw181. 5 floor wedges for the band (qsc k12). It doesn't have to be concert level loudness but I'm concerned that room and number if bodies will require more output than we have. What do you think? I'm i being too conservative or do we need to rent additional equipment? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlb Posted January 9, 2014 Members Share Posted January 9, 2014 Do you mean 4000 square feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members witesol Posted January 9, 2014 Members Share Posted January 9, 2014 might be just right. Height and angle are your friends. Get the tops way up and pointed out over the crowd. I've done quite a few smaller gigs with 153 over two 181. My gig this past weekend was about 300 people. Just started touching the clip lights on the tops. It depends on how many people are actually checking out the band too. are they a captive audience, like seated or crammed into a space such as that they all are there for the concert? I might wory about the "or more" aspect of the attendance though. In my experience events are nearly always under-attended. The promoter says 500 and 200 show up. Only a few times in the past 10 years have I needed "a bigger boat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koopdaddy Posted January 9, 2014 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2014 44 thousand square feet. It's in a museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dbMontana Posted January 9, 2014 Members Share Posted January 9, 2014 Thats a fairly large room but bounding surfaces of tile, metal, and glass will require (indeed demand?) less PA than otherwise I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audiopyle Sound Posted January 9, 2014 Members Share Posted January 9, 2014 It looks like they have a distributed speaker system. Find out if you can patch in to that for fill. Otherwise you will need delays if you expect intelligible sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koopdaddy Posted January 9, 2014 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2014 Audiopyle Sound wrote: It looks like they have a distributed speaker system. Find out if you can patch in to that for fill. Otherwise you will need delays if you expect intelligible sound. Ya I noticed that too. I was also looking at setting up delays depending on how things will be arranged. I have a call in with the organizer asking for some more details. I really want to do this event, but I also dont want to bite off more than we can chew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratGuy22 Posted January 11, 2014 Members Share Posted January 11, 2014 It should be good with what you have. People wanting to dance will be right up there. People wanting to visit will be further away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted January 11, 2014 Members Share Posted January 11, 2014 StratGuy22 wrote: It should be good with what you have. People wanting to dance will be right up there. People wanting to visit will be further away... I'm guessing the vocal intelligibility for the spoken word portion of the show is going to be much more important than the band. Flying a distributed, timed speaker system would go a long way to accomplish that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 11, 2014 CMS Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 If the band is simply for entertainment, you're golden. Your rig is fine, just concentrate on a nice mix up front. Volume should be low to keep reverb to a minimum, and also because many people will want to talk without having to go outside or to the lobbies.I would ask whether the house system will be used for all other spoken address, or if they want your system for that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 24, 2014 Members Share Posted February 24, 2014 Router quit working? That would be a deal breaker for me, I do not have the tolerance for such issues not do the acts that I work with. While this technology might be nice, and possibly helpful, if it's unreliable it becomes a giant negative IMO. I have yet seen a show at my level mixed wirelessly. Sometimes a pad will be used during setup, but even that is pretty rare. I think this shows the trade off of feature set versus reliability at different market levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted February 24, 2014 Members Share Posted February 24, 2014 There are a few casinos and mid sized venues that use an iPad controlling a larger digital console. In those instances they have worked put wireless issues before hand but the majority of mixing is done on the console. So show fun was it to get those tops on the subs? Dang! Looks like you had the right rig for that gig. Everything looks great, like how I woulda done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koopdaddy Posted February 24, 2014 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2014 agedhorse wrote:Router quit working? That would be a deal breaker for me, I do not have the tolerance for such issues not do the acts that I work with. While this technology might be nice, and possibly helpful, if it's unreliable it becomes a giant negative IMO. I have yet seen a show at my level mixed wirelessly. Sometimes a pad will be used during setup, but even that is pretty rare. I think this shows the trade off of feature set versus reliability at different market levels. I agree. iPad mixing is a great tool to use as an additional feature, but I certainly dont want to be in a situation were not having it stops the show. It certainly would have helped last night to have it working and perhaps the issue is something as simple as an erroneus setting on the router. We will find out in testing this week if we need to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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