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  • Thanks for maybe saving my life last night

    I had a pretty close call last night...but thanks to this forum, I'm around to talk about it.

    We don't talk about getting stuff to the gig much on this forum, but I have always considered my vehicle "part of the rig", and having a safe vehicle is just as important as having speakers that won't fall on patrons' heads.

    I hit a patch of black ice on an uphill curve last night -- I didn't realize the road conditions had degraded to this point, as they had been excellent earlier in the day. I was doing around 80kph (50 mph), lost control of my van when it downshifted, spun around a few times, and landed quite violently in the ditch, skidding in sideways with my nose pointing to the street.

    Somebody on this forum (Craig?) was quiet adamant that a divider was necessary in a cargo van used for live sound-type work. I took that advice, and installed a heavy steel bulkhead, which a took few hits from loose mic stands during the spin. Any of those could have easily hit me if I hadn't had the divider in place.

    As it was, my speakers, 20U rack, organ, and Leslie were all lashed to the side of the van and the bulkhead with E-track. I don't think they moved. The rubber carpet allowed some of the other stuff to move around, but not too bad. A big Pelican case, an old army barrack box, a Gator dufflebag full of cables, a suitcase full mics (in cases) ...... this stuff pushed on the rear latching door and knocked it out of alignment, so it doesn't close properly now........but I think that's it. It still latches. I'm not aware of any other damage to the vehicle, and especially, not myself.

    A friendly guy-with-a-truck stopped by with chains and we had me out in a few minutes. It's Canada .. Ironically - or maybe not - I'm quite often the "guy-with-a-truck" when my neighbours get stuck in their driveways.

    Time to take 'er for a test drive and call my mechanic. I don't see any undercarriage damage, but I don't have a hoist, either. Nor an alignment machine.

    Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?

  • #2
    Glad you're OK, and yes, there is no substitute for a hard wall between you and anything heavy when transporting.

    Interestingly, one thing you said rings very true with me:

    lost control of my van when it downshifted
    I honestly do not understand the love for automatic transmissions inNorth America. Yes, they are convenient in traffic, but when you REALLY need to have control of the vehicle, having a major component decide to change the balance without driver input is a recipe for disaster.

    There is a reason the we do not allow automatic transmissions in race cars - they would kill drivers and spectators by doing the exact same thing that happened to you, but at 200kph instead of 80...
    "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II


    • #3
      You lived to tell the story. Good on you!


      • #4
        Last edited by Bugzie; 01-02-2017, 11:14 AM.


        • #5
          It's nice when something so bad turns out so well. I think it was Craig that made that suggestion. Nothing like being crushed by your own gear.
          Former product development engineer: Genz Benz, a KMC Music/FMIC/JAM Industries Company, continuing factory level product support and service for Genz Benz

          Currently product development engineer: Mesa Boogie


          • #6
            Glad you took the advice. Hopefully serve as a lesson to others here, if needed.
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            • #7
              Glad you're okay!

              "Look at it this way: think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of 'em are stupider than that."
              - George Carlin

              "It shouldn't be expected that people are necessarily doing what they appear to be doing on records."
              - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

              "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."
              - Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter


              • #8
                Back in the 90's I had a Ford E150 loaded to the gills with lots of gear. It was winter and I started heading down a large hill on a county road with a T in the road ahead (only right or left) and straight off that was a deep embankment. I headed down the hill and applied my brakes
                to slow down and bang my brake pedal went to the floor (blew a brake line) and I started to speed up. I was in a panic! I pulled that van hard
                left and I think I went up on two wheels around that turn. I finally rolled to a stop and got out and emptied my pants. I was pretty shook up.
                I did not have a bulk head wall by the way. Phew!
                Glad to hear it worked out for you!


                • #9
                  Very glad to hear you're okay wesg and damage seems to be minimal.
                  Last edited by Shaster; 01-11-2017, 02:22 AM.