Members Stingray5 Posted January 8, 2015 Members Share Posted January 8, 2015 I have been using powered speakers since Mackie came out with them I think the 90's. I never have used A GEQ for front house and never ran into any real problems. Am I just lucky? Do most of you use one with powered speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wesg Posted January 8, 2015 Members Share Posted January 8, 2015 You're not lucky, you're just at the mercy of the internal processing combined with how you set up the channel strip EQs on your board. Does it sound fine? If so, then (by definition) it is fine. Doesn't mean it couldn't be better, though. Wes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crownman Posted January 8, 2015 Members Share Posted January 8, 2015 If I have a choice I always use a 31b eq on foh. I don't always change anything o it but I rather have it there and not need it than the need one and not have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted January 8, 2015 Members Share Posted January 8, 2015 This might help out a little about EQ-ing, although now a days with digital mixers and drive rack speaker processors not only give you GEQ but also PEQ. Since some user prefer to use PEQ for more detailed EQ-ing when using PEQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gordon Sound Posted January 9, 2015 Members Share Posted January 9, 2015 I typically use some kind of Graph for FOH. Even a basic 10 or 15 band can make all the differance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trevcda Posted January 9, 2015 Members Share Posted January 9, 2015 I typically use some kind of Graph for FOH. Even a basic 10 or 15 band can make all the differance. Or it can completely &u©# things up. As with any addition to your system you need to define what exactly it is your trying to fix. Typically any eq that is placed after or inserted on your main outputs is there to fix an issue, not act as a tone control. And the better the resolution of that eq, the more precise the adjustment. That would be why you typically see 31 band or parametric eq being used for the job. 10 or 15 band eq are like performing micro surgery with a machete. You might make it sound different, but you'll probably hack up your sound pretty badly in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 9, 2015 CMS Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 I've used GEQ on FOH. Then I stopped. Alternate universes weren't formed, there was no plague of locusts, and my whites still got white. Maybe having decent speakers and gear helps (okay, it definitely helps), but I'm in the camp that believes that unless there's something noticeably wrong, then everything's alright. It's so easy to endlessly F with the EQ for something "better" that's really only better because it's different. And our brains like different when it comes to sounds. The thing is, in a short period of time "different" turns into "normal" again, and what you had before will then sound "different" and therefore "better". If the band's or venues' check have cleared, you're doing something right and don't need to worry about it unless you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gordon Sound Posted January 10, 2015 Members Share Posted January 10, 2015 I Fully understand how to use a EQ and the limitations of various equalizers. Any equalizer regardless of bands, Parametric or graphic or shelving can get you into trouble, its like any tool. I dont always even use it.but its nice to know its available and i know how to deploy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pro Sound Guy Posted January 10, 2015 Members Share Posted January 10, 2015 A 31band GEQ is good on each side of the FOH so you can tone shape the system for the acoustics of the room.If you do not have feedback issues /howling/squealing and your happy with the sound then run with that.I prefer to always have GEQ on the FOH inside or outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trevcda Posted January 10, 2015 Members Share Posted January 10, 2015 I'm sure you do. I just felt the comment needed further clarification for anyone reading it who may not have that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted January 10, 2015 Members Share Posted January 10, 2015 I still prefer a graph on mains and monitors is possible. You can tune your speaker system as a system but every environment is different, a GEQ offers some help with those differences, not having one or a way to adjust seems idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted January 11, 2015 Members Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's nice to have but an EQ can rarely fix room problems (placement and pattern control is your best bet). In the end a bad room is a bad room and there's only so much you can do. If your gear is decent and setup properly you really shouldn't need an EQ at FOH. Done many gigs without FOH EQ with great results. my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted January 11, 2015 Members Share Posted January 11, 2015 So if a problem arises what do you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted January 12, 2015 Members Share Posted January 12, 2015 If a problem arises, it's probably a room issue and/or a poorly setup PA. both should have been corrected before the event began. I realize SR is a tradeoff. Sometimes there isn't time or the space to set your gear properly. Of course you try and avoid these situations but if it happens, it's usually only one or two higher gain mics. Do the best you can with strip EQ. After working a myriad of different rooms, usually you can outguess PA type & placment (remember an EQ is really the last and worst way to try and fix acoustic issues). I REALLY try and run the room flat BUT if all else fails, sure a little EQ can be a loose band aid in a pinch. Almost every digital board made has at least some basic parametric EQ on the output side. If you can't fix it with a couple of bands of EQ, it probably can't be fixed. Turning down is an option (sometimes). An old trick is, if you think the room sucks, start low and work your way up. another .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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