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    Hello, I'm musician who play in rock band. We are playing gigs for 100-500people, and we are interested to buy our PA system. We are looking for small, lightweight(

  • #2
    Lightweight under 30kg, powerful and loudness. Please givi me any sugestions

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    • #3
      Maximum 30 kg per one box , sub or top, and they must be under 15". I didn't like 18" speaker beacuse, i have small car

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      • #4
        Most 2 way cabinets are under 65 pounds. So gives you a lot of choices. More importantly what is your budget and do you need subs?
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        • #5
          Do you have a mixer, mics, etc......... ? do you need monitors ?

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          • #6
            Budget is a consideration. IMO the best light weight gear available is neodymium magnet speakers. JBL SRX (now discontinued) comes to mind (although other companies continue to make similar products). The weight, power handling & total SPL per box can't be beat BUT expect to spend $$$.
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            • #7
              I'll suggest this is "quite a subject". Who doesn't want a system that's lightweight, small, spanky, and sounds great (makes the band sound better than they actually do)... and will rock the socks off a club crowd and still fit in a Geo Metro and is a suitable vehicle during the week to commute to a day job or is more stylish than a box truck, and one person can set-up the system and dial it in in a few minutes without breaking any more of a sweat than operating a teevee remote control? And reasonably priced (read that "front pocket change by one member in the band who is taking the lead while everyone else in the band "just wants to play"), and will function reliably.

              If there was such a system, I'll suggest that is what everybody would use... so what is it? I dunno.

              In light of that, assuming I'm anywhere near correct with the "ideal criterion", I suspect "the suitable system" will be a compromise solution. So a question could be: What compromises and how much?
              Last edited by Audiopile; 08-03-2014, 09:29 AM.
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              • #8
                You can get 2 out of 3 no problem.
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                • #9
                  Small and light adds a premium price. It cost a manufacturer extra to be able to provide this type of product. And then if it doesn't sell in big numbers it adds even more.

                  So how much of a premium are you will in to pay for small and light. In my experience a new PA system for a 4-5 piece rock band playing to 150 people starts at about $8000 (if you leave out things like cases and spares). It doesn't fit in a Geo Metro either. So how much extra would you be willing to pay just to reduce the size and the weight?
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                  • #10
                    Well I think you really step up the price when you double the size of the crowd and get over 300 people. I have seen many good acts with two speakers and 2monitors in a bar with 100 or so. When you get up over 200 then you need more gear and at 400 or 500 hundred you need even more. Playing to crowds over 200 your gonna need a van or trailer.
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                    • #11
                      budget?
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                      • #12
                        An 8 inch two way that does 142db peak



                        Budget!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dboomer View Post
                          In my experience a new PA system for a 4-5 piece rock band playing to 150 people starts at about $8000 (if you leave out things like cases and spares). It doesn't fit in a Geo Metro either.
                          Mine fit in my Geo Metro - but it sure was tight, barely room for me! RCF310a's over TH-Mini's, 10" coaxial monitors...

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                          • #14
                            I'll suggest the likely preferred criterion is 5 out of 5.

                            Otherwise, why would the last show I attended involved likely over $500K of band member's vehicles "looking for parking spaces" at the venue, and $100K+ of personal instruments on stage, and the $200 "PA" that fit into one of the bandmate's personal daily driver vehicles not be capable of the job at hand (in any way shape or form).

                            And the band (contractor) was frustrated with the seeming lack luster reception of their product offering, and the consumer (customer) universally thought it sucked and was a waste of their time and money and will never "waste their time and money on that again".
                            I need to catch up with those guys, for I am their leader.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RoadRanger View Post
                              Mine fit in my Geo Metro - but it sure was tight, barely room for me! RCF310a's over TH-Mini's, 10" coaxial monitors...
                              Your system actually came to mind, but the TH-Mini's are 76lb. according to the spec sheet. The fact that the OP used kg as the unit of measure leads me to believe that he's not in the States, which means that he's probably got a limited selection of products.

                              In my mind, squeezing enough sub-bass for a rock act out of a 15" compact sub (or a pair.... or even 4 of 'em) is going to be the real trick. I like my little Kv2 KX1.5, but it's not punchy enough for rock band work... and even it's 35kg!

                              The JBL PRX715XLF is supposedly only 56lb. and I've heard it... it's OK. If I were buying a new system today and looking at size, weight, SPL, scalability, closeness of service centers/ease of replacement, reliability, name rec, resale value, up to an audience of 300 (indoors)... I'd go all JBL... PRX710s over PRX715XLFs for mains (4 of each for scalability, with these for splaying the tops for coverage) and IEMs for monitor world... since space is a primary concern. That's easily $7,500 just for the mains! Stands, cables (audio and power), IEMs, mics, and a mixer could be another $5-10K depending if your audio palate leans toward beer or champagne.
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