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  • Is Mackie's DL1608 a testbed?

    Bought a DL-1608 last September and since Mackie has upgraded the control software including some very nice new features. (Features I was never expecting.) I was just wondering if Mackie's primary interest is getting the features right on a programable testbed for their next generations of digital mixers. On the other hand, I don't think Personus ever made any changes to the StudioLive 24.4.2. Maybe because it's too hardware intensive and not programable enough? I've been working with one for my Senior's show for the last two years. (Show is in May.) Can't think of anything that's different on it. (Not complaining. It's a nice mixer as is.) Just opening the thought up for discussion. Maybe your next mixer should be software upgradeable in ways that expand beyond its original purpose. (And there have to be other mixers out there that this is happening with too.)

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    Anything with software could be considered a "testbed", since changes can be made more easily than redesigning and manufacturing hardware. Of course, the hardware imposes limits to what the software can manipulate, so at some point the design can be considered "maxed out".


    This would be one area where a soft interface such as an iPad or any built-in screen has the advantage, as it's easy to 'add' a new control to the screen, rather than the task of adding a knob, switch or indicator to a hardware box. An example would be the A&H Mixwiz, which had to wait for a new (W3) model release to add the main mix fader next to the LR faders.

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    • #3
      I believe when the SL16.4.2 was introduced, there was no capture software, VSL software, no iPad app, no Qmix app, they added the SL24.4.2, they added 8 31 band EQ's to the 24.4.2, they added flip mode to the 16.4.2 to route FX and more to the aux's, they've also added a new version of capture, Capture 2.0.

      There's more, when I find out I'll post it since I didn't have an SL from the beginning.


      To say they've never added anything since its inception is being seriously Mis-informed.
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        You never really know how your software will hold up until you get it into the hands of actual users. So it's not incredibly rare to do a project in phases, managable chunks that will be stable while the next phase is coded and tested.

        Of course back in the days of hard ROM chips and no Internet gear manufacturers really had to get it right the first time. Generally it's the old-line companies like Roland or Yamaha that put out really solid 1.0 versions.

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        • #5
          That's right. The speaker delay wizard was handy when I did sound in our local arena for grad. Using the delay wizard and having the speakers about 100' down, the transition was seamless when walking down the aisle.
          PA Unity15's over LS800p's. YX15's, YX12's IPR power, RM32AI

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          • #6
            You want my opinion? Manufacturers should be working on device independent GUIs. The only way to go with that right now is HTML5 in a modern browser, which is not ideal but it WILL work. Once you are there, you can deploy on laptop, COTS tablets, phones, Ethernet, wifi, whatever.

            Getting up and running with a scalable real time web app is non trivial, but it can be done (I have done it). Chasing the browser changes is a full time job, though. Realistically for at least two people.
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