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  • #31
    These are acoustic solo gigs, the sound shouldn't "dominate" but be very present.


    What a generalization. I think most would agree that it depends on the type of venue/performance.
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    • #32
      Remember -- if you're just doing acoustic guitar and vocals, you can get some good solid volume out of the Fish Stick. If you're adding piano/keys, a bass, or a kick drum, the Fish Stick will not work. It was designed for the singing acoustic-electric guitar player -- nothing else!

      The four-letter word company (Bose) has designed versions of its L1 & L2 systems to be more full range; Lee Flier has used them for years with her rock band, and they seem to work fine for her. But anytime you try and push something past its engineered specs, you'll get results like crappy sound or blown drivers. Today's PA technology is a wonderful thing... used responsibly!

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      • #33
        Anybody use it with drop tunings? Say an open C tuning? I like open tunings quite a bit.
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        • #34
          Open G with the low D...it has no problem reproducing that...
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          • #35
            This could be another topic but I don't agree with that statement. I guess if we're sitting around playing Jack Johnson or James Taylor in a quiet setting, but that's not always the case. I'd say that over 75% of my gigs need some good solid volume.


            Dude, that statement has to do with the feedback someone said he's got with it. I have to WORK at it to get my SA220 to feedback!

            Once again, the typed word and missed nuances of those words, make a point harder to understand when it's made on a internet bb, than when it's made in a conversation.
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            • #36
              Dude, that statement has to do with the feedback someone said he's got with it. I have to WORK at it to get my SA220 to feedback!
              Once again, the typed word and missed nuances of those words, make a point harder to understand when it's made on a internet bb, than when it's made in a conversation.


              Right on brother...I used to teach a lesson back in the day that described the "communication" process. The following are the approximate percentages for the entire communication process:

              Words- 7%
              Tone/pace- 38%
              Body Language- 55%

              No wonder nobody knows what the hell anyone is talking about on the internet- we're getting about 15% with emoticons
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              • #37
                I'm happy with mine. It sounds as if the OP's concern is whether the unit can be loud enough for his particular applications - that's a tough one to answer without trying one in those specific contexts. Maybe buy one from a vendor with a liberal return policy, and see how it does?
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                • #38
                  I've used a Fishman SA 220 at my solo gigs several times and have been very impressed with it. I'm a Chapman Stick player so I play some very low notes. No, the bass does not make your teeth rattle but it has a very pleasant and even frequency response. In fact the Fishman has become a lot of Stick players go-to-amps.

                  BTW the Bose unit was not pleasing to my ear at all. I used one with two subs for about a year of weekly gigs at a place I played. It always seemed to be lacking something no matter how I set it. Not a fan at all.

                  I'd say go with the Fishman.
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                  • #39
                    I've played a couple of gigs on the fishman. THey aren't bad.

                    I also own a couple of prx612 and would much rather bring one of those and a 4ch. notebook mixer ... IMO, it sounds more solid and feels better when getting louder. While I liked the compactness of the packing that it had, I think that I could put the anvil case I carry all my crap in (whcih is big enough for a small mixer) on top of one and dolly it in and be just as happy with the load in.

                    That said, if I was given a choice between showing up and seeing a fishamn and bringing my own, I always take the fishman. It's not bad, I just wouldn't want to own one.
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                    • #40
                      I've ordered the fishman unit and will report on my toughts once I've used it a couple of times.

                      Without going in circles to much, I would add that another huge positive for a stick system for me, is that it is non-impacting to the venue owners/managers/patrons. I have heard more than once, people complaining about volume before a band even starts playing just because the "speakers are so big".

                      The fishman would be for those kind of venues, the Country Club setting...the quieter, more intimate restaurant, the place where patrons arrive and immedialty ask to seat away from the band even before they are playing because visualy they already made a decision of how loud you will be even before they heard you...

                      The single stick pa creates the right visual impression, it is easy to set-up, easy to carry, and if it has suitable sound...well...one can only hope!

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                      • #41
                        btw, Rod, I forgot to mention that the FishStick has a Phase Control and a Notch Filter built in to reduce/eliminate feedback, and, according to Fishman, it will get up to ~115dB...hopefully no one will ever need to run one that loud...
                        you can read the manual here:
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                        • #42
                          according to Fishman, it will get up to ~115dB


                          Hey daddy ... what page did you find that spec on? I don't see it.
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                          • #43
                            Hey daddy ... what page did you find that spec on? I don't see it.

                            it is in the 'HEAR THIS' section... page 3
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