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  • chemikool
    started a topic How long does it take to get settled in on a gig?

    How long does it take to get settled in on a gig?

    When I'm on a gig, typically the first song or two I'm still thinking about the mix, my pitch, is my guitar in tune, is it too loud, not loud enough, etc...the ears start to compress things after 10 or 20 minutes, but those first couple songs always seem like stepping out onto a shaky branch, if you catch my meaning.



    How long does it take for ya'll to get settled in on a gig?



    My voice and guitar usually require a song or two to get "warmed-up." After 2 or 3 songs I'm usually hitting on most/all cylinders. The first song out though, I'm usually kinda feeling it out.



    Typically after an hour or so...my vocal pitch is practically perfect. Not that it isn't on the earlier songs, but my control seems to go up a notch after singing for a bit.



    What are your experiences here? Does it take a few songs to "get your sea legs back?"

  • steve mac
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    Like yourself, I got the ipad essentially to run the onsong app as it wasn't available on any other tablet. I do use it however to browse the web and keep in touch and its fine for that. But, the same week I bought it my wife bought the google nexus tablet and in every respect it beats the ipad hands down. Of course except it doesn't run onsong. I couldn't imagine not using that now either for organising set lists, providing handy reminders of lyrics, chords, capo position, notes, one liners, starting backing tracks, playing other sound files plus more. So if it got stolen, I would get another ipad the next day.

    Cheers Steve

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  • Potts
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceNorman
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    When I hear your issues with the iPad - I can't help but feel it's not an "iPad issue" as much as it is an issue that a tablet computer simply isn't a great fit for your wants/needs. Just my 2 cents.




    +1

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  • SpaceNorman
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    I can understand your sentiments. I guess I went into my iPad purchase knowing that I was purchasing it solely for it's size and portability (recognizing that it wouldn't be suitable for any of the real computer tasks I do). I've long known that I'm very much a real "PC with a keyboard and mouse" kind of guy. (tiny laptop screen?s ... no thanks!, touchpad cursors? ... hate 'em!, laptop "eraser" mouse control? ... you gotta be kidding!). I played with the iPad long enough to recognize that it would NEVER be a replacement for a device with a sizeable monitor and a real keyboard and mouse.



    I purchased my iPad primary as a solution for dealing with my charts (using OnSong) ... I've since found it's handy for keeping all the Manuals and User guides for every piece of musical gear I own at my fingertips. (which is a pretty big pile o' stuff when you consider my keyboard rig, my PA and my lights). It's also proven useful for incidental web access at rehearsals and gigs (pulling up YouTube clips for songs we're learning, grabbing crowd requested break music when it's not something that's I have elsewhere, quick and dirty demos of our website, etc.) It's been OK as an ebook reader as well ... although I don't have that much free time to really use it in that capacity.



    My biggest frustration with the iPad thus far is that I have yet to find a way to control cursor movement when using the "keyboard" (i.e., "non-descructive" arrow keys that will allow me to place the cursor exactly where I want it without having to touch the screen a few dozen times until I get it exactly where I want it.



    As far as "cheaper" goes ... I think my 32GB, WiFi only, iPad 3 was $499. Which wasn't all that much more expensive than any name brand tablet with similar memory available at the time (i.e., Sony, Samsung, etc.) ... there were a couple of off-brand units I saw ... but the screen quality was WAY inferiour to the iPad. Screen quality and software availability made the call a slam-dunk.



    When I hear your issues with the iPad - I can't help but feel it's not an "iPad issue" as much as it is an issue that a tablet computer simply isn't a great fit for your wants/needs. Just my 2 cents.

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  • Potts
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    No Problem Space...



    First of all I'm not one of those "hate Apple" guys. I love the idea of the IPad, I swear by my Iphone and would buy a Mac if I had the money. After 6 months of this thing I've realized that the only thing I use it for is music and lyrics. I like the idea of browsing the internet with it but it sucks on my eyes and the screen is too small. I LOVE to play games but I get disinterested in all the apps quickly. You can't do any business on it either. As you probably know I'm a college student. I tried to apply it to school and it sucked for note-taking and even online text books. Apparently I'd be better off with a Microsoft Surface or one of those laptop/tablet devices.



    I should phrase it this way. If I knew that I wouldn't use my IPad for much more than gigs, I would have went less expensive and went with a different tablet.

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  • Potts
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    No Problem Space...



    First of all I'm not one of those "hate Apple" guys. I love the idea of the IPad, I swear by my Iphone and would buy a Mac if I had the money. After 6 months of this thing I've realized that the only thing I use it for is music and lyrics. I like the idea of browsing the internet with it but it sucks on my eyes and the screen is too small. I LOVE to play games but I get disinterested in all the apps quickly. You can't do any business on it either. As you probably know I'm a college student. I tried to apply it to school and it sucked for note-taking and even online text books. Apparently I'd be better off with a Microsoft Surface or one of those laptop/tablet devices.



    I should phrase it this way. If I knew that I wouldn't use my IPad for much more than gigs, I would have went less expensive and went with a different tablet.

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  • SpaceNorman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potts
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    Man...if I had to do it all over again I wouldn't get an Ipad. I'd find a tablet that does the same or more and costs less.



    NOTICE: This was not my original sentiment regarding the IPad. I think that they're over-priced and actually too restrictive for what most users (who happen to be PC users) want.




    Just curious ... what do you wish the iPad could do that it doesn't. I was hoping for something a little less expensive than the iPad when I was looking - but after looking at a number of other device and comparing what music related software was available for iOS vs the rest of the pack - the cost premium you pay for an iPad didn't seem so unreasonable.



    I understand wishing and wanting more .... but in terms of available choices for music related software - the iPad stuck me as a "slam dunk" decision when I bought mine a few months ago.

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  • Potts
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    Man...if I had to do it all over again I wouldn't get an Ipad. I'd find a tablet that does the same or more and costs less.



    NOTICE: This was not my original sentiment regarding the IPad. I think that they're over-priced and actually too restrictive for what most users (who happen to be PC users) want.

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  • steve mac
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    Got to agree I got an elite last summer and no other guitar I've had has brought more admiring comments, plus easy to play and sounds great plugged in. Am totally happy with it.

    Re tablet, I don't believe things have moved on much since that megga post on here titled take a tablet and see me in the morning, having gone thru it. I would totally recommend an ipad 2 and either of the two main apps plus a robust mike stand holder

    Cheers Steve

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  • chemikool
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    Thanks Potts! And you are absolutely right...I need a tablet so bad it's killing me. From a looks standpoint, from a tool standpoint, and from a cool standpoint; there is no denying how much better a tablet will improve my performances. Soon I'll be making another topic about that. Has that game changed? How much should I spend? What features matter?



    Thanks Steve! This guitar has garnered all kinds of attention. I had at least 10 people ask about it. When I bought it, I posted a picture on facebook - within a day it had 75 likes. People are really responding to how this guitar looks. When I bring out the big guns, the only people that are impressed are the other guitar snobs, like me.

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  • steve mac
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    Dam those Ovations look good

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  • Potts
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    Nice job. We need to work on getting you a tablet though

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  • chemikool
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    Equipment used:



    Yorkville NX 750p (no processing, gtr and vocal direct right into it)

    My new Ovation Guitar (first gig with it)

    Mic stand / Microphone (beta58)

    Pedalboard (which I could have left...only used it 3x the whole night)

    1 XLR cable / 2 1/4' cables

    Music stand / lyric book



    Load in AND setup was completed in less than 10 minutes (one trip)

    Gig was 830-1230; and I got there at 8. Was paid and out the door by 1.

    Total time invested: about 6.5 hours. Commute: 45minutes each way. Total money made: $246 (almost $100 in the jar, not a bad night)

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  • chemikool
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    I'm trying to kill a bunch of birds with this one stone. Hopefully the people in the other thread "Appearance" will look here to see what I wore. I said in that thread I would post something, so here it is. Also, this is the first time that I used my new guitar that I spoke about in the "crushed guitar" thread. I know the tone isn't there in this vid, but I did get it sounding just fine after about an hour.



    I video-ed the gig from Saturday night and put the first couple songs up on my youtube channel. I'm hoping this might open up the discussion a little bit about the first few songs of the night.



    I was not in the best of moods, nor was I in the best physical shape either. Wednesday was the first time in 5 years that I had gotten sick. I was still dealing with that on this gig. 30 minutes before I started I took 2 dayquil pills and another 2 more about 3 hours later. So I'm fighting that, which any singer will tell you sucks ass.

    I don't think this video is the best representation of what I do, so I'll be taking a down after a week or so once enough of "y'all" see it. I'm posting it to foster debate, that is all.



    Here it is, comments welcome.

    I tried to post the video link, but HC is SOOO SLOW right now that it would never come up...so you'll just have to trust that this is the correct link.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBjNwBZcw84&hd=1

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  • Notes_Norton
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    We do a sound check before the audience arrives.



    When the downbeat comes, I'm ready to go.



    Notes

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