Members BluesCam Posted July 21, 2017 Members Share Posted July 21, 2017 I am in a blues duo and am interested in adding some percussion sounds to fill things out. I have seen the Farmer Foot Drums and some digital stomp boxes and pedals. What are you folks using? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted July 21, 2017 Members Share Posted July 21, 2017 I don't use any percussion (tracks instead) but the other day, I saw a keyboard player using a stomp box through his PA and it really added to his sound. He didn't use it on every song, just here and there. Assuming you can play it relatively in time, it seems to round out the low end nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BluesCam Posted July 22, 2017 Author Members Share Posted July 22, 2017 Yes, that's what I'm thinking. This looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve mac Posted July 22, 2017 Members Share Posted July 22, 2017 I used a beat root stomp box that has a piezo at both ends that each give differing tones, I attached a tambourine with elastic to one end and found the piezo picked it up, at the board I eqd to taste and it did sound good. However I found foot/leg ache meant I could only play for part of a song. http://beat-root.co.uk So, I started using percussive techniques on the guitar into a looper and sometimes combining with some simple beat boxing and this worked quite well. However, I have now decided I am going to start playing sat on a stool and will try the stomp box again to see if this takes some of the pain away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BluesCam Posted July 23, 2017 Author Members Share Posted July 23, 2017 Thanks for that, Steve. I didn't think about foot fatigue. I was thinking that I would operate one sound and the bass player would operate a second sound. Probably kick drum and HH or snare. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted July 23, 2017 Members Share Posted July 23, 2017 Oh, don't be namby pamby about it. Get a sheet of plywood and stomp the hell out of it. [video=youtube;mCSEUWGcr2s] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrHarryReems Posted July 23, 2017 Members Share Posted July 23, 2017 I use a Beat Buddy is a compilation vid of my band that is mostly all Beat Buddy, with the exception of the clip with the live drums, and the clip with no percussion. 90% of the time, we perform as a duo using the Beat Buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted July 23, 2017 Moderators Share Posted July 23, 2017 I use a Beat Buddy Here is a compilation vid of my band that is mostly all Beat Buddy, with the exception of the clip with the live drums, and the clip with no percussion. 90% of the time, we perform as a duo using the Beat Buddy. another Beat Buddy user here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrHarryReems Posted July 23, 2017 Members Share Posted July 23, 2017 another Beat Buddy user here! Honestly, I was skeptical of the Beat Buddy when I bought it, having been recently burned with the TRIO, but it's turned out to be one of the best purchases ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted July 23, 2017 Moderators Share Posted July 23, 2017 Honestly, I was skeptical of the Beat Buddy when I bought it, having been recently burned with the TRIO, but it's turned out to be one of the best purchases ever. Do you have the outboard switch box? That was the game-changer for me. We here in Solos and Duos actually had some input in the final design, like the larger display, midi interface, a few other things...I was an early adopter, in on the crowd funding... I was mildly curious about the original TRIO, but after trying one out at GC, it just seemed to be very limited, and let's say 'dull sounding'. For home practice, maybe some value, but for performance enhancement...meh. I have not tried the newer version, but I wouldn't expect too much. If they can synthesize vocal harmonies based on the guitar chord being played in a harmonizer, why they couldn't synthesize a more interesting bass pattern based on the chord in the TRIO...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrHarryReems Posted July 24, 2017 Members Share Posted July 24, 2017 Do you have the outboard switch box? That was the game-changer for me. We here in Solos and Duos actually had some input in the final design, like the larger display, midi interface, a few other things...I was an early adopter, in on the crowd funding... I do! It's critical for playing live. I have it programmed to scroll through my songs when it's not playing, right switch pauses play for songs with breaks or songs that need to stop without an outro fill, and left switch will return to stop from pause. Also, during play, left button will outro fill. Things like the midi sync are so great, I have my delay and VoiceLive 3 timed with it. It took a firmware update on the VoiceLive 3 to handle 6/8, but that was TC Helicon's problem. I was mildly curious about the original TRIO, but after trying one out at GC, it just seemed to be very limited, and let's say 'dull sounding'. For home practice, maybe some value, but for performance enhancement...meh. I have not tried the newer version, but I wouldn't expect too much. It was missing a whole lot, and you never really did know what you were going to get out of it. I asked Digitech about a few obvious things it was missing, and they pretty rudely told me it was a practice device, and the features I was asking for were geared for playing live. A few months later, the TRIO+ came out with most of the features I was asking about. You couldn't give away the original TRIO at that point. If they can synthesize vocal harmonies based on the guitar chord being played in a harmonizer, why they couldn't synthesize a more interesting bass pattern based on the chord in the TRIO...? I think their real issue is in the detection. You never knew if the TRIO's drummer was going to show up sober, or on some kind of psychadelic... You could input the same progression, with the same rhythm 10 times, it would give you everything from a spastic 4 year old to a solid drummer. The Beat Buddy is great, every time. I've bought a few of the premium libraries and have not been disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BluesCam Posted July 24, 2017 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2017 DaddyMac, I tried your video link but it was just a Youtube login link. Can you post your Beat Buddy video link again? Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted July 24, 2017 Moderators Share Posted July 24, 2017 I think that was Harry's link...if you google 'beatbuddy demo' you will get pages of material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Telecruiser Posted July 24, 2017 Members Share Posted July 24, 2017 I use a Beat Buddy Dang! Another toy that I have to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BluesCam Posted July 24, 2017 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2017 Oh, I'm sorry you are right. It was Harry. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrHarryReems Posted July 24, 2017 Members Share Posted July 24, 2017 Oh' date=' I'm sorry you are right. It was Harry. Thanks.[/quote'] Sorry about that! Link fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BluesCam Posted July 24, 2017 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2017 Thank you, very cool sound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davis25 Posted August 3, 2017 Members Share Posted August 3, 2017 Sorry for hijacking this thread. I have posted mostly in the Live Sound forum here. I currently play in a trio (guitar, bass and singer). We would like to add some kind of drum backing track to our songs. We are thinking about using LiveTrax but we would like to know where we can find good drum backing tracks to use for our songs? We play a variety of songs for example, Michael Buble, Marshall Tucker Band, Journey, Beatles, 4 Non Blondes to name a few. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrHarryReems Posted August 4, 2017 Members Share Posted August 4, 2017 Sorry for hijacking this thread. I have posted mostly in the Live Sound forum here. I currently play in a trio (guitar, bass and singer). We would like to add some kind of drum backing track to our songs. We are thinking about using LiveTrax but we would like to know where we can find good drum backing tracks to use for our songs? We play a variety of songs for example, Michael Buble, Marshall Tucker Band, Journey, Beatles, 4 Non Blondes to name a few. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Again, I'd strongly suggest the Beat Buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltan Posted August 6, 2017 Members Share Posted August 6, 2017 seems highly unpopular around here but have any of you ever heard of hiring a real drummer? not for nothing but there isnt anything you can do with a stompbox that can even come close to approximating the nuances and soul a real musician can impart to your music. period. you want to sound like a canned band? i sure dont... karaoke anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltan Posted August 6, 2017 Members Share Posted August 6, 2017 mechanization = no soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve mac Posted August 6, 2017 Members Share Posted August 6, 2017 seems highly unpopular around here but have any of you ever heard of hiring a real drummer? Sure and while I am at it I will hire a couple of backing singers and ditch the harmonizer, oh and maybe get rid of the looper and employ a lead gutarist and bass player. Hang on then I would be in a band and be splitting the money 4 or 5 ways. Sorry but whilst you are of course correct there is no substitute for the real thing, I think from a practical point of view being a "one man band" is for many the way forward. Although I agree it's a fine line between that and simply sticking on a backing track. As an aside I am currently holidaying in Liverpool UK one of the live music capitals of the world. We went into one pub where a solo singer/ guitarist was doing his thing, after a couple of songs he put his guitar away and started singing to full backing tracks, two minutes later we were out of there. So in my mind it's not clear cut. Much love V. Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted August 6, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 6, 2017 seems highly unpopular around here but have any of you ever heard of hiring a real drummer? not for nothing but there isnt anything you can do with a stompbox that can even come close to approximating the nuances and soul a real musician can impart to your music. period. you want to sound like a canned band? i sure dont... karaoke anyone? Yes, we have, but many places don't have room, some places require a special license to have live drums, and there is always the pesky 'paying that guy' thing. Not to mention the volume issues... So we should not take gigs in small rooms because we can't put a three, four, five or 7 or 9 piece band in there to sound 'real'? Even having a guy on a cajon, after a few songs, the sound of a cajon gets tedious. I tried that ...once. To be frank, though, I had stopped using the BeatBuddy almost entirely, reduced my harmonizer and looper use drastically and went back to mainly just playing guitar and singing...easier, more natural...same money...why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted August 6, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 6, 2017 extra body=less pay drum kit=too loud for most rooms that hire solo/duo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrHarryReems Posted August 6, 2017 Members Share Posted August 6, 2017 seems highly unpopular around here but have any of you ever heard of hiring a real drummer? not for nothing but there isnt anything you can do with a stompbox that can even come close to approximating the nuances and soul a real musician can impart to your music. period. you want to sound like a canned band? i sure dont... karaoke anyone? It would be awesome if venues were willing to pay for it, and there were skilled, reliable, professional drummers available to play the gig in the most remote place in the entire world. And don't get me started on mainland bookings that already barely cover, or don't cover the flights for two people. Let's just add another headcount to that boost our travel expenses by another third. Brilliant idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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