Members pogo97 Posted August 29, 2014 Members Share Posted August 29, 2014 Puttin' on the RitzTry a Little TendernessSmoke Gets in Your EyesDarktown Strutters BallSweet Georgia BrownTiptoe Through The TulipsBlue SkiesAll of MeDeep PurpleBlue MoonBlueberry HillAt LastI Remember You others that come to mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trevcda Posted August 29, 2014 Members Share Posted August 29, 2014 I always laughed at my friends who didn't know that a good chunk of Van Halen's early catalog was covers: Pretty Woman- Roy OrbisonDancing in the Street- Martha and The Vandella's (later covered by Mick and David)You Really Got Me- The KinksYou're No Good- Dee Dee Warwick (also covered by Linda Ronstadt) Not one to shy away from laughing at myself, I caught my self thinking the same thing about Tesla's "Little Suzie" originally written and performed by Ph. D. I don't know if it counts as "a hit" two eras, but interesting still. Never saw that one coming. I actually love finding these now. ~~[video=youtube;JKgzYLBV_cc] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted August 30, 2014 Members Share Posted August 30, 2014 There have been a ton of songs that have been covered over the years, and sometimes many years later. I guess the trick would be to find songs that were covered so much later that they not only span eras but genres to a certain degree and, at least to some degree were re-defined by the cover version? Not sure if these all qualify, but they are the first that come to mind. Over The Rainbow (Judy Garland and Israel Kamakawiwoʻole)Last Kiss (Wayne Cochran and Pearl Jam)A Hazy Shade Of Winter (Simon & Garfunkel and The Bangles)Hurt So Bad (Little Anthony & The Imperials and Linda Ronstadt)Always Something There To Remind Me (Dionne Warwick and Naked Eyes)Killing Me Softly With His Song (Roberta Flack and The Fugees)You're Sixteen (Johnny Burnette & Ringo Starr)You're Mama Don't Dance (Loggins & Messina and Poison)Ring of Fire (Johnny Cash and Social Distortion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted August 30, 2014 Members Share Posted August 30, 2014 Can't Help Falling In Love (Elvis and UB40) Higher Ground (Stevie Wonder and Red Hot Chili Peppers) Cold Cold Heart (Hank Williams and Norah Jones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted August 30, 2014 Moderators Share Posted August 30, 2014 Caledonia [Louis Jordan and BB King]Crossroads [Robert Johnson and Cream]Shout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Notes_Norton Posted August 30, 2014 Members Share Posted August 30, 2014 Unchained MelodyBlue BayouWalk, Don't RunCrazy Little Thing Called LoveHow Sweet It IsI Got You BabeI Shot The SheriffRoll Over BeethovenPink CadillacRed Red WineDon't Be CruelStagger LeeSwayThis MasqueradeSummertime BluesYou Really Got A Hold On MeDo You Love MeDon't Leave Me This WayFunky TownJump Jive And WailFlip Flop And FlyShake Rattle And RollRelease MeKansas CityLove Is StrangeLove Potion #9I'm A ManHarlem NocturneHave I Told You LatelyMustang SallyMountain Of LoveMoney, That's What I WantLouie LouieBorn Under A Bad SignBaby I Need Your LovingRockin Pneumonia & The Boogie Woogie FluBang A GongMack The KnifeBeyond The SeaBlack Magic WomanBlue VelvetBlueberry HillCan't Help Falling In Love and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Dey Posted August 30, 2014 Members Share Posted August 30, 2014 you don't know me - eddie arnold, Mickey GilleyTell me why - George Jones, Palamino RoadHave I told you Lately - Van Morrison, Rod StewartKnock on Wood - Eddie Floyd, Ami StewartMemphis - Chuck Berry, Johnny RiversOn Broadway - Drifters, George BensonDock of the Bay - Otis Redding, Michael BoltonI'm a Believer - Monkees, Smash MouthYou've lost that lovin' feeling, Righteous Brothers, Hall & OatesYour love keeps lifting me higher - jackie Wilson, Rita CoolidgeLa Bamba - Ritcfhie Valens, Los LobosLoco-motion - Little Eva, Grand Funk, Kylie MinogueCrimson & Clover - Tommy James, Joan Jett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted August 30, 2014 Moderators Share Posted August 30, 2014 If You Don't Know Me by Now...[Harold Melvin and Simply Red...and Rod Stewart] a great Gamble/Huff tuneDancing in the Street [Martha and the Vandellas, Van Halen, Bowie/Jagger] co-written by Marvin Gaye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted August 30, 2014 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2014 Any Time : written 1921, recorded by Emmett Miller 1924, covered by Eddy Arnold in 1952Lovesick Blues : written 1921, recorded by Emmett Miller 1928, covered by Hank Williams 1948I ain't got Nobody : written 1914, recorded by Emmett Miller 1928, covered by Louis Prima 1956 David Lee Roth 1985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted August 31, 2014 Moderators Share Posted August 31, 2014 Funny you mentioned Emmett Miller...I have some transcriptions and some Okeh recordings of him and his backing band, The Georgia Crackers - band members included the Dorsey Brothers, guitarist Eddie Lang (the American Django) and Gene Krupa...I was just listening to them the other night. Miller gets the short end of the stick, sadly, because he was a minstrel show 'blackface' performer, [like Jolson], but kept it up through the end of Vaudeville, and beyond, into the 1950s. Many people cite him as an influence, and his style is echoed in the music of a lot of early Country & Western from Bob Wills, Lefty Frizzel, Jimmie Rodgers, Hank Willaims, to Merle Haggard, and so on...Leon Redbone and Ry Cooder were Emmett Miller fans. Even Louis Jordan and a number of his contemporaries 'lifted' from Miller. His 'yodel-like' delivery definitely set the standard for 'cowboy yodelers' right up to Roy Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted August 31, 2014 Members Share Posted August 31, 2014 For years I didn't know that Dream A Little Dream of Me was first recorded in the early thirties. I also just recently brought back Young Blood and had never realized that Bad Company "straightened out" the bridge. The Coaster's bridge is a little quirky - but cool. It's been mentioned before but the CCR version of I Put A Spell On You, bears little resemblence to Screamin Jay Hawkins' version (or even Nina Simone's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted September 1, 2014 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2014 Miller gets the short end of the stick' date=' sadly, because he was a minstrel show 'blackface' performer, [like Jolson'], but kept it up through the end of Vaudeville, and beyond, into the 1950s... [video=youtube;h-1mo9j7it8] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted September 1, 2014 Members Share Posted September 1, 2014 Miller gets the short end of the stick, sadly, because he was a minstrel show 'blackface' performer, [like Jolson], but kept it up through the end of Vaudeville, and beyond, into the 1950s. Yeah, well....he chose his own end of the stick. Doesn't negate whatever talents he may have possessed but, in my view anyway, he chose the money he could make at the time vs. his legacy and probably some negative backlash during his own time as well. Kind of like the girl who is beautiful enough to be a model and is a pretty good actress but decides there's better money in doing porno movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted September 1, 2014 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2014 Yeah, well....he chose his own end of the stick. Doesn't negate whatever talents he may have possessed but, in my view anyway, he chose the money he could make at the time vs. his legacy and probably some negative backlash during his own time as well. I don't think that's how life actually works. Choices are made in the context of one's life and sometimes a careless choice can echo forever. Maybe a person doesn't even know there is a choice. Anyway, he's a unique singer and he had the good sense to hire the best (white) jazz musicians in New York. His late 20s recordings are unique and wonderful and well worth listening to.I like to think that he didn't actually apply blackface in the recording studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted September 1, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 1, 2014 I like to think that he didn't actually apply blackface in the recording studio. No, I'm sure he wouldn't bother. Blackface was, unfortunately, already a 'tradition' on the American music hall stage by the turn of the 20th century. Miller was just one of many who opted to work in blackface...he just didn't have the perspective [social or historical] to see how offensive it was to black people, or how negatively it reflected black culture, or how that would ultimately affect his legacy. The '28' routine was lifted and altered by other comedy teams, most notably Abbot and Costello... [video=youtube;xkbQDEXJy2k] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Notes_Norton Posted September 2, 2014 Members Share Posted September 2, 2014 It's not fair to judge the people from the past entirely from today's perspective. Not that it makes what happened in the past correct (or incorrect), but some things we find horrid today seemed normal in the past. I don't think many black-face performers were intentionally offending African-Americans any more than the Goth performers of the end of the 20th century were intentionally offending Germans. They were just getting work and doing what was popular at the time. Most never gave the political incorrectness of it a second thought. I'd even suppose that some who donned black-face actually thought they were being respectful and honoring the people they were trying to emulate. And I'm sure others hated African-Americans for no reason other than the fact that they were different. One of my favorite quotes by Beethoven is sexist by today's standards, but in Ludwig's day this was not considered sexist: "Music should strike fire from the heart of man and bring tears to the eyes of woman." When I first went on the road, the musicians all had Elvis-era "razor cut" hair styles. Then our agent said that we could make $25 more a night each if we let our hair grow like The Beatles. We said, It's growing and started looking like the Brits at the time. We meant no disrespect, we just joined in, and did what we needed to do to gig. I think John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd had a lot of respect for the blues artists they emulated, even though there was comedy in their act, I don't think it was meant to be offensive in any way shape or form. But we're drifting off topic here. Angel Of The Morning - Merilee Rush / Juice NewtonYou've Lost That Loving Feeling - Righteous Brothers / Hall & OatsHello Stranger - Barbara Lewis / Yvonne EllimanMony Mony - Tommy James / Billy IdolBang A Gong - T Rex / Power Station Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 Love Hurts -- Everly Brothers & NazarethIko Iko -- The Dixie Cups & someone elseAnother Saturday Night -- Sam Cooke & Cat StevensThe First Cut Is the Deepest -- Cat Stevens & Rod StewartI'm Henery the Eighth -- Harry Champion & Herman's HermitsA Kind of a Hush -- Herman's Hermits & The Carpenters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted September 8, 2014 Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 I guess I'm losing track of how long an "era" is supposed to last... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted September 8, 2014 Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 I agree that you can't judge performers from the past from today's perspective. That someone might have been performing in blackface at the turn of the century or into the 1920s was one thing. Doing it into the 1950s was starting to get kind of icky. Which is pretty much why it didn't exist at all by the 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted September 8, 2014 Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 And somehow trying to compare white performers using blackface to goth kids "intentionally offending Germans" is absurd. Was any German ever offended by Goth? Goth kids weren't offensive to Germans because they were never intentionally trying to BE "German" or to present themselves as specifically "German". C'mon, Bob. You're smarter and better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted September 8, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2014 I think John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd had a lot of respect for the blues artists they emulated, even though there was comedy in their act, I don't think it was meant to be offensive in any way shape or form. This is not a good example, since if you look at the number of notable musicians who were in the films (Cab Calloway, Ray Charles, Aretha, James Brown) it is obvious the boys had a very reverential approach to the blues, and certainly were in no way disparaging the artists they were emulating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Notes_Norton Posted September 8, 2014 Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 That was the point DaddyMack, it wasn't meant to be offensive. I don't think Al Jolson intended to be offensive either. And I don't think the Goth kids wearing swastika jewelry were trying to offend anyone either. Sometimes things go into fashion and people do it for that reason. And show-biz people are often desperate to get noticed and will jump on any trend without a single thought except to get hip to what's happening. Here's a twist on the topic. What about Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" which had new words added to become Danny & The Juniors' "Twistin' USA" which got a new set of words when The Beach Boys re-issued it as "Surfin' USA" And completely back on topic: Speaking of The Beach Boys, they had a hit with the Regents' song, "Barbara Ann" (And I think the Regents did it much better). Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted September 8, 2014 Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 I don't think Al Jolson intended to be offensive either. But that really doesn't excuse it does it? Especially once we're talking about later decades when it became pretty obvious it WAS offensive but grown adults continued to do it anyway. Goth kids wearing swastika jewelry maybe aren't necessarily trying to be offensive to a particular group of people, but they ARE trying to be outrageous and shocking. And they at least have the excuse of being kids. But they know what they are doing is, in some part "wrong". Which is WHY they are doing it. What's the excuse for a grown man in the 1950s to decide to paint his face black in order to entertain audiences while singing a black song? What was the POINT of it? Did it make the song better? No. Did it make the musical performance better? No. Did it entertain some white folks who were amused at the idea of a white man not only singing a black man's song but trying to look like one while doing so? Yes. Was it done REVERENTLY? No. It was done completely at the expense of the dignity of the blacks. Did Jolson and others recognize this at the time? Maybe not. But if they didn't it was almost completely because they didn't care what blacks would have thought of it. Hard to be intentionally offensive when you don't care what those who might be offended think, isn't it? And it only compounds the offense when your primary care is that doing the offensive act might put another dollar or two in your pocket. If there wasn't at least an element of "wrong" about donning blackface, it wouldn't have been entertaining. Like goth kids wearing swastikas, part of the entertainment of blackface was the "shock" value, or the "joke" of making fun of blacks. ("Look at that guy up there, Marge! Why, he looks and sounds so much like a real (enter racial epithet here) that I can hardly tell the difference! Ain't that a hoot?!?") That it was "fashionable at the time" to do so is a weak, weak excuse. And "my intention wasn't to offend anyone" is a poor, poor excuse as well. Because that only then begs the question "what WAS your intention, then?" And I'm trying really hard to see what possible "good intention" could have ever existed for donning blackface.... Jolson and others easily could have decided "it's a great song, and I sing it well. I don't need to put on blackface to perform it" and done so. Many others during that time certainly sang black songs without feeling the need to pretend to be black people for whatever entertainment value existed in watching a person do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted September 8, 2014 Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 And show-biz people are often desperate to get noticed and will jump on any trend without a single thought except to get hip to what's happening. That's not just a flaw with show-biz folks. Herd mentality is human nature. Remember those pics of all those white kids protesting school integration in the 1950s? Most of them were good kids without bad intentions or intentionaly trying to be offensive. They were going along with what was happening at the time. It was just the way they were raised. What their parents and society taught them. Certainly doesn't make it right. Not even close. Does it make it excusable? Not really. A bit more understandable, perhaps, but doesn't really excuse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted September 8, 2014 Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 The release of existing hits as covers was how you made it in the 60s. Pretty well big group did it. It was common to go cut a self produced 45 cover and shop it around to the local radio DJs. As for the black face thing... http://black-face.com/minstrel-shows.htm Here is a link. I was in school during the time when schools were going though de segregation. Racial tensions were actually less then than they are now. The difference is the destruction of the black family. You can thank LBJ for that. The thing that has helped race relations the most has always been music. The thing that has always made them worse is race baiting for political power. racism is real and you see it on all sides of the fence and I don't see it really going away. How you handle it is the important thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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