Members Deki Posted August 26, 2004 Members Share Posted August 26, 2004 Hi! I have Yamaha P80 el. piano with Gradded hammer action keys and I want to buy Motif ES 8 which have Balanced action keys. Could you tell me what is the real difference between these two actions (for piano players)? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GigMan Posted August 26, 2004 Members Share Posted August 26, 2004 Balanced - weighted action but is even across whole range of keyboard Graded - weighted action that is heavier on bass range keys and lighter on upper octaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Deki Posted August 26, 2004 Author Members Share Posted August 26, 2004 Ok, but is it an everage action on gradded hammer equal the action on balanced hammer and is it the same feeling? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davehorne Posted August 26, 2004 Members Share Posted August 26, 2004 I would just go to the store and play it for myself. I tend to ignore the various claims made by manufacturers. Case in point - some electric pianos are advertised with some sort of sympathetic resonance. They will claim they've added a fourth sample just for this feature. Great, right? I just bought the Yamaha P250 - a great keyboard. If I were not told that this piano had a fourth level for resonance, I never would have learned of its existence. I practice daily on a GranTouch 1 which does not have that feature ... and I have never noticed its absence. The point - forget what the features are and just play the piano. If you like the action, great, if not, try another brand or model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greyson Peddie Posted August 26, 2004 Members Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by Jazz+ The top octave of your P80 Graded Action, which is the lighest region of your action, is similar to the weight that is consistent across the entire Balanced Action. passive/aggressive/passive/aggressive; no wait* Is it Rin tin tin, Petros or Mreddyson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike Martin Posted August 26, 2004 Members Share Posted August 26, 2004 The description of the Balanced and Graded above is correct however, the P80 does not use the same mechanism as the newer P-series and Motif ES series. As Davehorne suggests you should play them to feel the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miket156 Posted August 27, 2004 Members Share Posted August 27, 2004 I love Yamaha P120/P250, but the ES8 can wear a lot more hats and for me is the better value. The ES8 sounds amazing. I don't think there's much of a difference in the piano or the ES8 actions. They're both excellent. Another thing to keep in mind that the P250/120 sustain feel and operate like a piano sustain, and the ES8 responds like a synth sustain pedal, because that's what they are and there is a difference. You can't half pedal on the Motif ES series. For me, that doesn't matter, I play most of my piano parts legato with a minimum amount of sustain. If you're primarily a piano player, you will notice a slight difference. I would suggest you have the dealer plug a Yamaha sustain pedal into the ES8 when you demo it and see how you like it. Mike T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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