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  • #2
    Can you say "Avatar?"



    Day late, dollar long.



    Doubt it will make much of a splash.



    That UI looks a tad confused.



    'Course I could play it and fall in love, but a freekin' 2661 is cheaper.

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    • #3
      Looks like a pretty deep synth, but if I had that kind of change to drop on a synth in that price range I'd probably buy an Andromeda.
      <div class="signaturecontainer">And which do you choose, a hard or soft option?<br />
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      • #4
        I don't get it. Kurzwiel, in typical fashion, releases a synth with specs that dwarf the competition and make sound designers cream... then complain about it. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, I'm just making a comparison to the misconception of the K2600 (ie, people think its just a rompler) and such.
        <div class="signaturecontainer">&quot;The perfect woman perpetrates literature as though she would perpetrate a small sin, looking around to see if anyone notices it; and to make sure that someone does.&quot; Some dead German guy...</div>

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        • #5





          Originally posted by pighood

          'Course I could play it and fall in love, but a freekin' 2661 is cheaper.



          Actually, they have the same MSRP.
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          • #6
            F--k, if I'm gonna buy a Kurzweil synth, I'd much rather get one with VAST... I'd definitely go with the K2661 over this... though I do imagine that the knobs make this one easier to program.



            Kiru
            <div class="signaturecontainer"><font size="1">&quot;Don't sell your life! Do whatever you really want to do. You must act as the master of your life, and then become <i>free</i>. No matter how difficult it is, no matter how unsuccessful it might seem, do whatever you want!&quot;<br />
            -- Michio Kushi<br />
            <br />
            The only way to settle questions of an ideological nature or controversial issues among the people is by the democratic method, the method of discussion, of criticism, of persuasion and education, and not by the method of coercion or repression.<br />
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            • #7





              Originally posted by Kirumamoru

              F--k, if I'm gonna buy a Kurzweil synth, I'd much rather get one with VAST... I'd definitely go with the K2661 over this... though I do imagine that the knobs make this one easier to program.



              Kiru




              You might want to read the spec's again... This thing essentially DOES have VAST, albeit catered in a differant manner.
              <div class="signaturecontainer">&quot;The perfect woman perpetrates literature as though she would perpetrate a small sin, looking around to see if anyone notices it; and to make sure that someone does.&quot; Some dead German guy...</div>

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              • #8
                A K2661 with knobbages would be like a Waldorf Wave....



                Dr

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                • #9





                  Originally posted by Altered Flesh





                  You might want to read the spec's again... This thing essentially DOES have VAST, albeit catered in a differant manner.






                  knowing kurzweil, there's sure to be WAY more to it than what meets the eye.

                  it's got new chips and a lot of time has passed since the k series was developed - i imagine this thing will be 'extremely' deep.

                  i really hope it does well.

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                  • #10





                    Originally posted by Altered Flesh

                    You might want to read the spec's again... This thing essentially DOES have VAST, albeit catered in a differant manner.



                    I will look again, but here are some other differences... 4 part multi-timbral vs 16 for the K2661, 16 notes of polyphony vs 48, four effects vs five, no sequencer, small display... also, the K2661 can combine sample sounds with synthesized ones... I've just recently been turned on to the capabilities that VAST presents, but hell, if I'm gonna get involved with it, I'd rather do it with an instrument that can make both realisitic and synthesized sounds.



                    The VA1 does have lots of knobs though.



                    Kiru
                    <div class="signaturecontainer"><font size="1">&quot;Don't sell your life! Do whatever you really want to do. You must act as the master of your life, and then become <i>free</i>. No matter how difficult it is, no matter how unsuccessful it might seem, do whatever you want!&quot;<br />
                    -- Michio Kushi<br />
                    <br />
                    The only way to settle questions of an ideological nature or controversial issues among the people is by the democratic method, the method of discussion, of criticism, of persuasion and education, and not by the method of coercion or repression.<br />
                    -- Mao Zedong</font></div>

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                    • #11
                      looks killer
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                      • #12
                        the VA1 is not a K2661.

                        they're 2 different products intended for different types of buyers.



                        would you compare a virus with a fantom? or a Q with a triton?



                        maybe i should say ms2000/triton, or jp8000 with fantom?

                        or AN1X with motif?



                        of course, with kurzweil, it's not as simple as that - with them, things are hardly ever 'simple'.

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                        • #13





                          Originally posted by Kirumamoru



                          I will look again, but here are some other differences... 4 part multi-timbral vs 16 for the K2661, 16 notes of polyphony vs 48, four effects vs five, no sequencer, small display... also, the K2661 can combine sample sounds with synthesized ones... I've just recently been turned on to the capabilities that VAST presents, but hell, if I'm gonna get involved with it, I'd rather do it with an instrument that can make both realisitic and synthesized sounds.



                          The VA1 does have lots of knobs though.



                          Kiru




                          Polyphony- thats 16 notes with 7!!! sources each (112 simultaneous tones if you use all 16 notes)



                          4 effects- well, its only 4 part. Things such as distortion, ring mod..etc are all available as DSP sources if you need them in addition to the effect.



                          A sequencer wouldn't make much sense in this synth, and frankly I wouldn't want to pay for one either on this kind of synth, just my personal preferance though. Display size is a good point, but it seems the majority of functions are hardware driven..I don't see much menu diving on this board.



                          I think the biggest problem is that Kurzwiel absolutely sucks at marketing. Unless you have a Kurz, or have read tons of non-company issued info, one is probably clueless as to what their machines are actually capable of.



                          But as MildBill said, you really shouldn't compare the K2600 and VA1 (would you compare a Triton to a Minimoog?). Instead compare it to the Virus, Super Nova, etc.
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                          • #14
                            I wasn't comparing the VA-1 to the K2661 in terms of its synthesis, merely comparing pricetags.



                            Eggs is eggs.

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                            • #15





                              Originally posted by mildbill

                              the VA1 is not a K2661.

                              they're 2 different products intended for different types of buyers.



                              would you compare a virus with a fantom? or a Q with a triton?




                              I think the argument being made here is that Kurzweil is repackaging its core technology in a form that it believes will make it more attractive. I'm just saying that it was already getting kind of attractive to me in its K2661 form, and I'd probably buy that over the VA-1... for no other reason that I find having samples as building blocks to work with attractive; YMMV. I still say that as a straight up workstation, the K2661(2600) is still inferior to the Motif ES... but I woudn't mind having one for the sound generating capabilities.



                              Kiru
                              <div class="signaturecontainer"><font size="1">&quot;Don't sell your life! Do whatever you really want to do. You must act as the master of your life, and then become <i>free</i>. No matter how difficult it is, no matter how unsuccessful it might seem, do whatever you want!&quot;<br />
                              -- Michio Kushi<br />
                              <br />
                              The only way to settle questions of an ideological nature or controversial issues among the people is by the democratic method, the method of discussion, of criticism, of persuasion and education, and not by the method of coercion or repression.<br />
                              -- Mao Zedong</font></div>

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