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  • Have any of you guys ever sampled a sound or loop from someone else's music?

    Or is this beneath you?
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  • #2
    isnt that the whole point in hip-hop?

    *ducks*
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    • #3
      Originally posted by myteeGTi
      isnt that the whole point in hip-hop?

      *ducks*


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      • #4
        I'm just starting to experiment more with sampling... i always kind of turned my nose up at it, but i've been craving that particular sound you can get by sampling drum beats from records and re-arranging the sliced hits. Myself I'm not into sampling whole loops or melody lines 'as-is'.

        But I see nothing wrong with sampling whole loops if they are re-contextualized or harmonized in a creative way. The key is 'creative'.

        And yes this is a big part of hip-hop. No need to duck..?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LANSTARR
          Or is this beneath you?


          While I don't utilise loops that much these days, I'm very much of the "if it works, then why not?" way of thinking.

          A lot of my loops come from very odd sources though, and I tend to try and mess them up a little...

          a trick I learnt early on was to take say a drum loop or bass line REX it up then play the data of another REX loop on it... sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't but its a simple way to give new life to old loops...

          My sources are generally old 1970s psych/electronic/jazz/funk/library/prog records but usually ones that nobody has ever heard (often for good reason.. they are crap!)... in fact I rarely like the original records from which they came from... usually its just 2-3 seconds of a great break in the middle of some terrible trashy crap..

          Of course, I like many people here also have the skills to play music live and do a lot of that too.. but theres something nice about a sample and pitching it up and down, reversing stuff, EQing, compressing the f**k out of loops....

          I love pitched rhodes chords on min 9ths for example... has a lovely vibe that can't really be had on a real rhodes...

          Really, there shouldn't be any limits to what people want to utilise. Some people see it as a bit of a crutch, but I never see it like that... if something sounds good it is good.

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          • #6
            All the time. Kontakt 2 and Peak are my friends.

            Sampling is an art-form unto itself and another way to kill creative block.

            Something else I learned while in England. They aren't as uptight about using bits of material, hell, I'm cutting up "True" by Spandau Ballet right now.
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            • #7
              Or are you not creative and interesting enough to make something compelling with it?
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              Niall.

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              • #8
                I like to sample stuff...Ill generally change it until its unrecognizable from its original state, but if someone wants to use a sample of a cool melody from an old record or something, thats cool. I think they should give credit where its due if they use it verbatim on a published work though,with little or no changes done to the source material.
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                • #9
                  in a just and fair world, artists and lawyers would understand that the terminus of the work is the vernacular - indeed, the cliche. marketing types and record execs understand that the success of whatever "product" they're pushing can be measured by its metonymity - they just want, disingenuously, to be the arbiters of its use. so, sometimes, it's hard to give credit where it's due, or to be artistically transparent - you'll get cease and desist letters or be forced to destroy your work in public, in the worst case scenario {just ask john oswald, or negativland}.

                  seriously, i can't believe they had to take superman off that ****************ing sufjan stevens album cover.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by myteeGTi
                    isnt that the whole point in hip-hop?

                    *ducks*



                    why are you ducking?
                    Yours,
                    Niall.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by syncretism
                      in a just and fair world, artists and lawyers would understand that the terminus of the work is the vernacular - indeed, the cliche. marketing types and record execs understand that the success of whatever "product" they're pushing can be measured by its metonymity - they just want, disingenuously, to be the arbiters of its use. so, sometimes, it's hard to give credit where it's due, or to be artistically transparent - you'll get cease and desist letters or be forced to destroy your work in public, in the worst case scenario {just ask john oswald, or negativland}.

                      seriously, i can't believe they had to take superman off that ****************ing sufjan stevens album cover.


                      "terminus"

                      "vernacular"

                      "metonymity"

                      "arbiters"

                      "****************ing"

                      "One of these words is not like the other.... "

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by orangefunk

                        "One of these words is not like the other.... "


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by syncretism



                          why are you ducking?


                          a lot of people tend to puff up when hip hop is insulted.

                          with that being said, hip hop ****************ing sucks. Crap excuse for music...

                          *ducks again*

                          Originally posted by orangefunk



                          "One of these words is not like the other.... "


                          I bet one of those words just doesnt belong.
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                          • #14
                            i've actually never seriously sampled from an existing song before in anything i've done that i've thought of as 'my own'. i know i've got some stuff on some old cassettes from when i got my first sampler, an SP-202 upon release (always hated that thing). even those don't really use full bars/riffs/beats from tracks usually. i do enjoy toying with the 'Amen, Brother' break every once in a while though, just for fun.

                            on the other hand, i myself really respect older hip-hop/sample based music. i think it's a bit of an art in itself, for example i think the Beastie Boys' 'Paul's Boutique' is somewhat of a timeless masterpiece. i really enjoy this type of 'sound collage' approach and think that sometimes two or more seperate pieces of music can form a better whole. how is that not creative, if only some sort of a 'found' art? i think the hip-hop boom of the 80s was could be thought of as making something new out of a bunch of old worthless junk (disguised as crates of vinyl at a flea market or thrift shop).

                            what i do think is lame is using pre-made sample loop CDs or the generic types of loops that come with Ableton Live, etc... i also felt pretty 'dirty' playing around with the factory samples on the MPC.

                            Originally posted by myteeGTi
                            ...with that being said, hip hop ****************ing sucks. Crap excuse for music...


                            that seems pretty shallow. maybe a crap excuse for lyrics/vocals/taste/image/role models/etc/etc...
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                            • #15
                              Sometimes I did - expecially now that I'm working on a strange hip hop project with a friend, that's almost compulsory, but I also like to sample strange things (for example, I sampled the start of the soprano chant in Greenaway's The cook, the thief, his wife and her lover and created a gloomy 1716 track with it). It's funny, indeed
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