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  • Flying to a gig

    Arg... I mean YAY!.... I mean.. arg.

    My band has been asked to play a benefit on the East coast in July. They are flying us out there to do it, so our gear will mostly stay behind. I think besides the guitar and the bass, everything else is going to be borrowed when we land. As the keys guy from a band with a 50+ song repertoire, I'm kind of attached to my Electro and the settings I have built into it for easy setup of whatever tune is called. If the alternative was not having a clue what you'd be able to get your hands on would you check your Nord with an airline?

    This is the case I use:

    SKB ATA 61


    I'm kind of terrified of it being damaged or destroyed, but almost as scared to play some other random keyboard with endless scrolling menus, terrible action, and patches that won't make us sound the way we need to sound. Thoughts?
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  • #2
    Fwiw, I would consider shipping it to yourself via Fedex in the flight case. Done it a number of times now with musical gear.
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    • #3
      Two questions-

      1. I don't think what I have qualifies as a "flight case." But that's sort of the heart of the matter, isn't it.

      2. Doesn't that cost in the nieghborhood of $300 roundtrip?
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      • #4
        Two questions-

        1. I don't think what I have qualifies as a "flight case." But that's sort of the heart of the matter, isn't it.


        According to SKB, "They meet ATA Cat 1 specs as airline shipping containers.". Imo, Fedex is a better bet for safe, insured treatment over letting baggage handlers at it.

        2. Doesn't that cost in the nieghborhood of $300 roundtrip?


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        • #5
          Sorry, but I know some of you guys are/were serious pros who have travelled extensively to play. Please share what you know.

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          • #6
            I've done a lot of flying with one of those SKB cases. Your keyboard will be fine unless they lose it.

            The first time I flew with it was to a gig in Winnipeg, Canada. I was nervous about flying with my board. I switched planes in Minneapolis and watched them drop it in the ice while unloading. (Did I mention it was winter?)

            Ever since then, I've stopped worrying about whether they'll drop it. They will! The case will handle it. A bigger concern is if they'll lose it.

            Some airlines (ahem Delta) make you sign that it's not porperly packed, but they do that no matter what kind of flight case you use.

            Personally, I find the SKB cases to be quite good. I once was rear-ended while my keyboard was in the trunk. The car was totaled, but, after using a winch to break apart the trunk, my keyboard case was extracted. It had cosmetic damage, but my keyboard was fine. I wish I had taken photos.

            Just my two cents...

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            • #7
              Great post Binkeys. Good to hear your experience, and I agree, best to not worry about them dropping stuff. They will.

              I once had a 'delicate' video editing machine air-freighted from Australia to Hong Kong. Don't know what happened on route of course, but when it arrived at our home the delivery guy (polite name) simply threw the box into the house from outside!!! Landed with a sick thud on floor. I was speechless and dumb-founded. But it still worked after I had cooled down and unboxed it.
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              • #8
                Rent a Nord when you get there and load your sysex backup file.
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                • #9
                  I've flown to Vegas twice now (from Illinois) to play gigs. In both cases the flight was non-stop, so I was fairly confident my Triton Extreme wouldn't get lost. After thinking through all the alternatives (renting a Triton Extreme out there and taking a CF card with my stuff on it with me, shipping the keyboard via freight carrier to our hotel, or just taking it with me in a hard shell case), I chose the "take it with me" option. I used a Gator hard shell case both times...and I, too, witnessed it be handled like a hot potato. It showed up, and played just fine, but there was one problem this last time we went (Feb. of this year)...the sample RAM was knocked loose. I had to re-seat it, and everything went fine. Our whole band took their instruments (drummer took cymbals and sticks)...all the backline was rented. It was a pain in the ass hauling the gear from the airport, but the hidden benefit was all the hotties asking what band we were in, etc. Of course, if we were SOMEBODIES we wouldn't have been schlepping our stuff! I wish all bands could get that opportunity just once, because it was a blast!

                  IF I get the chance again, I'm going to go the rental route...I just have this feeling I shouldn't push my luck anymore.

                  Just my two cents...

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                  • #10
                    I didn't know that you could rent pro keyboards... how do you go about doing that?
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                    • #11
                      If they can fly you out there and get all of the other equipemnt you need, it should be relatively easy for them to come up with a Nord for you to use.

                      What city are you playing in? Check with their local music stores.
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                      • #12
                        Thank you for all the good posts. We're playing in Philadelphia twice, bookending a night NYC.

                        Prog said: "Rent a Nord when you get there and load your sysex backup file."

                        Please tell me more about this. Should I be backing up my sounds anyway regardless of this plane trip? If I do back it up, how do I transport and load the sysex file. Very interesting.
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                        • #13
                          Philly and New York should be able to come up with a Nord to rent.

                          I am stunned that no one here suggested renting a local keyboard and loading the sysex backup. It's been an option on keyboards for the last 20 years. That was the whole point of System Exclusive backup files in the original MIDI spec.

                          Nord doesn't have online manuals, so I don't know how to do it on them.

                          Typically, you can save all of your programming, including sounds, sequences, etc. via the MIDI Out. You dump them to a computer, sequencer, or even another keyboard. All of my sysex (*.syx) files from 8 pieces of gear add up to about 1.2M in size. These will all fit on a floppy disk. You just need a MIDI interface to a computer. Yes, you should be backing up.

                          You can even make the backups to your computer and send the files in advance (via email) to the local rental company and have them preload the Nord for you.

                          Start a thread asking how to back up a Nord.
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                          • #14
                            Why not hire the gear you are used to for the night at the otehr end - probably still cheaper and easier than transporting it...
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                            • #15
                              Nord manuals are available online: for example, the one for the Electro is [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]here.

                              You can do a sysex dump with the Electro and then read it back in on the new one (see pages 39 and 44).

                              I've also had good luck just renting equipment when traveling (not always the same thing I use locally...rather than a Fantom, Ion or Nord Stage, sometimes I'll find a Hammond or Korg along with a Motif), but can usually spend a few hours with the new board and come up with the settings I need.

                              Of course, if you have highly specialized settings for your gig, you're probably better off doing the sysex dump than trying to recreate things with different gear.

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