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  • #31
    A buddy of mine has the mm6, and I have played it before.

    It feels cheaply made, and in MY OPINION the sounds are a little tacky sounding.

    maybe it's just me...

    bottom line- if it were me I'd go with the X50- but it's really YOUR DECISION in the end

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    • #32
      Some of you people on this forum are just stupid.

      Jesus Christ, he can't afford or doesn't want to spend $3000 on a keyboard doesn't mean you guys can't help him.

      I swear to God, it's so clich

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      • #33
        True. My cousin has gigged hundreds of times with his X50 and it's still in perfect condition.

        Heck, remember the cheaply made Nintendo DS Phat? Some people climbed the Everest with 4 systems and they all survived while most other electronics broke down.

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        • #34
          FWIW I have been gigging with an MM6 since April. I'm sending it back because the LED has failed to light on 2 occasions. Can't afford that **************** on a gig.

          It has some decent sounds (although a little thin to my ears) but to use it live I max out the volume on the bank of patches I use (VERY low output) and also set the accompaniment volume to "0" to prevent accidental wonka-wonka rap rhythms being triggered in the middle of a song (that's good for a laugh- the FIRST time). Also, the banjo sucks. And be sure to anchor it somehow on your stand- the first gliss you do will send it flying across the stage.

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          • #35
            FWIW I have been gigging with an MM6 since April. I'm sending it back because the LED has failed to light on 2 occasions.


            Hmmm, I've had that too. Half the screen is white. It goes away after a minute.
            TAAKADO= The Artist Also Known As Dutch Ovenz

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            • #36

              IMO. The Yamaha MM6 has more modern synth sounds in it since the X50 is based on most of the old school Triton sounds.


              Hi guys, just a quick clarification.

              The X50 does use the same HI-synthesis engine as the Triton family, and it includes the entire 32mb Triton ROM with lots of familiar Programs and Combis, it also has 32mb of newer ROM samples, including some samples from the OASYS (pianos, EPs, etc).

              Regarding the build, the X50 was certainly designed to be a reliable gigging instrument. Take another look at those metal handles... They're not only convenient, they add rigidity and strength to the X50, and prevent the case from flexing unnecessarily.

              Hope this helps!
              Richard Formidoni
              Technology Product Manager
              Korg USA, Inc.

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              • #37
                Some of you people on this forum are just stupid.

                Jesus Christ, he can't afford or doesn't want to spend $3000 on a keyboard doesn't mean you guys can't help him.

                I swear to God, it's so clich
                HI I AM JONATHAN TAYLOR THOMAS YOU MAY REMEMBER ME FROM TV'S HOME IMPROVEMENT I AM HERE TO **************** UP YOUR DAY LOLROFLOMGIDKMYBFFJILL/ROSEBBQ

                I AM SUPER-SERIOUS.

                I SOLD MY GEAR DON'T CARE YOU DIDN'T BUY - GO LOCAL & ORGANIC H8 U GUYZ

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                • #38


                  Similarly cliched and predictable are people who come into a forum, rant about the snobbishness of the members, and still not provide an answer or opinion on the original topic. Well done.


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                  • #39


                    Similarly cliched and predictable are people who come into a forum, rant about the snobbishness of the members, and still not provide an answer or opinion on the original topic. Well done.

                    Though this thread is VERY OLD, I would say X50.

                    Still stand by my MO6 statement, though.


                    Someone got a wee bit offended because I basically described him in my post...

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                    • #40
                      I am not sure if thats true. They have reputations of being inexpensively built with plastic, thats not quite the same as being poorly built. Sure, they aint tanks, but I see nothing on them that is wrong. Just cheap.

                      I would be curious to hear real-world scenarios. Do they actually fall apart?? Ive been dealing with rare string instruments for 35 years, so I know how to be uber-careful when handling musical instruments. The X50 in particular feels solid (for what it is). The mm6 feels like a kid's hollow surfboard.


                      X50 does fall apart, first thing that falls is the screen or the powerplug. And belive me they will fail sooner or later.

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                      • #41

                        Since both keyboards are sitting in the room with me, I can only say what I have already said. Both are good SOUNDING keyboards, and it has been pointed out in this thread the strengths and weaknesses of both. The X50 is much more portable because it is smaller, has handles and is more compact. The mm6 is "less complex", it is larger and bulkier yet incredibly light. The X50 doesnt particularly FEEL plastic, the mm6 does, it feels like a hollow plastic surfboard.


                        Cygnus - good descriptions... I have a Triton Le, have had since 2002 and have gigged hundreds of times w/it since then.

                        I know it is cheaply made and I am not crazy about the keybed but it has great sounds built-in and I didn't have to program much, only alter a few patches slightly... otherwise it has tons o' useable sounds & the X50 seems to carry on that tradition. Except pianos, the acoustic pianos are NOT Korg's strong point.
                        "Gigito ergo sum: I Gig, therefore I Am."


                        Keys:
                        Yamaha MotifXF6 - (bottom tier) & Korg M361 (top)
                        Roland RD300GX (88 keys - smaller gigs & when I play left hand bass)

                        Mixers, Spkrs.:
                        (2) QSC K12's, (2) QSC K10's, (2) QSC K8's
                        1 JBL PRX715XLF Subwoofer
                        Motion Sound KP200S & KP100S kybd. amps (rarely use any more)
                        Allen & Heath MixWiz3, Soundcraft MFXi8, Yamaha MG82cx,
                        Mackie ProFX12, Alesis TransActive 50, [Samson PL1602 - For Sale]
                        Fender Rumble 100 Bass Amp (for Ibanez SR500 Bass)

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                        • #42
                          I guess I get to be the lucky one who is the first actual owner of an X50 to post to this zombie thread in the last couple days. The X50 is a whole lot more of a Triton than the MM6 is of a Motif. The MM6 is a PSR in Motif clothing. The X50 is a real Triton. The X50 is worth buying over the MM6 merely for the VST editor.

                          My X50 shows no signs of falling apart, but that may be because I exercise due care and diligence for my gear. The X50 is one of my favorites to carry because it has more power per dollar per pound than other keyboards I have.

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                          • #43
                            I guess I get to be the lucky one who is the first actual owner of an X50 to post to this zombie thread in the last couple days. The X50 is a whole lot more of a Triton than the MM6 is of a Motif. The MM6 is a PSR in Motif clothing. The X50 is a real Triton. The X50 is worth buying over the MM6 merely for the VST editor.

                            .


                            I've been contemplating selling my X50. My analogy: it's kinda like bad chinese food. It tastes good for a while then it has a crappy aftertaste.

                            I guess I'm not a Korg fanboy, the only other thing I've owned from Korg was a Poly 800 back in the dark ages. Everything on the X50 sounds artificial and processed. The first year I had it I really liked it, but lately I use it less and less, and the sound is almost irritating to me. I think it's the reverb.

                            For most people, it would be the better choice by far, no doubt. I think I've come to realize that I'm more of an emulative guy when it comes to synths, it's my classical geekdom upbringing. I want an orchestra in a box. Still, the X50 is an amazing unit for a great price, I just think I am happier with a more acoustic soundset.

                            My next step is to buy a better computer and get some serious samples. The East/West Goliath set looks pretty interesting.
                            TAAKADO= The Artist Also Known As Dutch Ovenz

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                            • #44
                              I think it's the reverb.


                              Sounds like you might be a candidate for the MFX checkbox in Global mode. Most of the reverb/delay/other ambience effects are in the MFX section, which you can disable without affecting the IFX. If you want a pure, raw "rediscovery" of your X50, it might be a musically useful change of pace.

                              I have a million things to say about our "orchestra in a box" programming, but I'll spare you... except to say that I recommend you spend 30 minutes playing Combi DynOrchestra 2, really exploring the velocity switching and key ranges. I can't HELP but try to compose for the big screen... or at least hack away at some John Williams themes.
                              Richard Formidoni
                              Technology Product Manager
                              Korg USA, Inc.

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                              • #45
                                Thanks for responding RichF, it's always nice to see youz guyz on a forum like this listening to your customers.

                                Sounds like you might be a candidate for the MFX checkbox in Global mode


                                I've done it in the past. I'll try it again and try some of my other reverbs.

                                I have a million things to say about our "orchestra in a box" programming, but I'll spare you... except to say that I recommend you spend 30 minutes playing Combi DynOrchestra 2, really exploring the velocity switching and key ranges.


                                It's impressive programming for sure. Combis like that, Modern Orchestra, Psycho Orch, Phantasmagoria, Magic Kingdom are all quite impressive. In context of this thread, the MM6 has nothing remotely close to that. Win for Korg.

                                I'm in the very small minority of your customers that is an actual pro orchestra player for a 1/4 century. The orch combis are fun when I have company over, I can switch on "Modern Orchestra" and be instant Ligeti. On a practical level, I can't really use them. A velocity-triggered timpani on 12 low brass notes isnt real world, Unless you have an orchestra that carries 12 timpanis and a crappy orchestrator that only knows how to double low brass with unison timpani.

                                The combi that makes sense is under "leads", the "oboe split". Strings accompany an oboe, not double it. Even with that one, there is some other patch doubling the oboe, try it and see. Whatever it is, it's an octave higher. Anyhoo, it's a combi that could "actually happen" in the real world, an oboe player playing a separate part from the strings. Most of the combis are layers, and unison ones at that. Orchestras don't do that.

                                My two cents. Thanks for responding, I'm sure I speak for many that it is really nice to see the guys who sell the stuff respond in threads.
                                TAAKADO= The Artist Also Known As Dutch Ovenz

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