Members The*Ataris Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 I apologize if you guys get this a lot, but I'm just completely in love with some of the synth sounds that Tokyo Police Club get and I can't figure out how to pull them off. I mean, it almost sounds like a guitar the way it rings out and distorts. It's pretty prominent on the first three songs here: http://www.myspace.com/tokyopoliceclub I'm pretty new to synthesis, but I can't get anywhere close to that. If anyone can get me in the ballpark of this sound, I might just love you forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members The*Ataris Posted February 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hmmm...well, that makes sense. I've got a Tube Screamer and a Fuzz Factory (Fuzz Face circuit) and my bass player has a big muff. I guess it's time to have some fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members r33k Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Report back with your findings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KennethNishimot Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's just a fuzzed out guitar. Not like any fuzzed out guitar I've ever heard, but I do believe it is a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted February 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's just a fuzzed out guitar. Not like any fuzzed out guitar I've ever heard, but I do believe it is a guitar. Dude, no... I promise I wouldn't lie to you. Want proof? PZYuXZJ6BAE [YOUTUBE]BYEV99_j114[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xmlguy Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 What synths do you own and what have you tried? Are you using patch editor software? Start with a screaming lead patch, add ring modulation and tweak the distortion and filter resonance to get harmonics in the same range as that sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted February 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 I've just been screwing around with a Microkorg for a while, but I've also been looking for the next step too. I've been looking around for a Juno-60 because a really solid pad sound would be the most useful to me, but I'm really intrigued by that sound he's getting. As far as I can tell, it doesn't exist on the Microkorg. It's so rich and full of harmonic content; rings out really nicely too. I've been looking at something like a Nord Lead too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoundwaveLove Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 What a pointless band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 I've just been screwing around with a Microkorg for a while, but I've also been looking for the next step too. It's not the synth, it's the effect. Nords and especially Junos won't do it on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundwave106 Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 I apologize if you guys get this a lot, but I'm just completely in love with some of the synth sounds that Tokyo Police Club get and I can't figure out how to pull them off. I mean, it almost sounds like a guitar the way it rings out and distorts. You know what I would try? Running a garden variety analog/modelling type synth into a tube amp simulator, like a Line 6 or something. Sine wave oscillators ("ping" type sounds) and other softer type sounds work best with distortion, and there isn't a whole lot of distortion needed for what is played there. Hell maybe even a fuzz pedal alone will work. Have fun. Some day, I'm going to drag that Line 6 pedal I have, plug it into my Roland VK-8, and see if anyone notices the difference between me and a guitar... heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleepykeith Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 it sounds like an organ patch ran through a rat pedal to me... or some other abrasive distortion. you could make this with almost any synth and a pedal, but you might want to start with the micron... since that's what the band is using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would say buying a synth just for one sound is dumb... but I bought a D50 just for "staccato heaven" and I STILL think it's made of win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xmlguy Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 The "ring" you are hearing is a metallic sound that comes from ring modulation of two oscillators. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_modulator The distortion is applied after the ring modulation. Some synths have good distortion and amp modelling, some don't. Most synths have ring modulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted February 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Thank you all for your suggestions. That's exactly what I was looking for! Thankfully I'm a pedal-crazed guitar player pretending to be a synth player so I have plenty of toys lying around to mess around with. Let me tell you, though. I really enjoy your world and learning this stuff is really fun... I'm going to try some stuff with: --Line6 POD XT --TS9DX --SPF Green Line --MXR Distortion+ --USA Big Muff --Zvex Fuzz Factory I'll report back when I get a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members r33k Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Most synths don't have ring modulation. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted February 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 What a pointless band. What a pointless post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted February 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Fixed. Well, fortunately the Microkorg does in some capacity. I haven't really played around with it. I suppose I've just been scared off of the word, because ring modulation is generally so useless for anything melodic in a guitar context. I'll give it a run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xmlguy Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Fixed. Perhaps I should've said most modern VA synths, including that Microkorg, have ring modulation. The original sample was done on a Micron, which also has ring mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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