Members midi Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Anybody still use these things? I mainly work on PCs but a friend wanted me to help upgrade his G4 and I'm like WTF? These things are pieces of crap - why does Apple make such over-priced cheap gear? I know some people like them but compared to Windows based machines their a nightmare. These 3 letters me no like: ATI AMD MAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members electrobaby Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Anybody still use these things? I mainly work on PCs but a friend wanted me to help upgrade his G4 and I'm like WTF? These things are pieces of crap - why does Apple make such over-priced cheap gear? I know some people like them but compared to Windows based machines their a nightmare. These 3 letters me no like: ATI AMD MAC well it seems you have a well crafted and thought out arguement. I agree macs suck...I cant imagine also why anyone would want to use Roland...they make such overpriced products...they are just crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xpander Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 smells like troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 1562 posts and this is the best you can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keanu reeves Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 only fags and girls use macs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J05H Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL My factory refurbished 450mHz G3 iMac still runs perfectly. You've just gotta take care of 'em and not fill 'em with crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Any reason in particular they are pieces of crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Dislike ATI eh? Looked at Nvidia recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 I like AKG and dislike ASAP but am tepid about MADD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members midi Posted September 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Well yes, It was just built so cheap I had to laugh, but I LOVE Nvidia esp my new MSI NX260 - graphics have never looked so good! Thanks for listening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Have fun when it melts down due to faulty engineering (die bumps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members augerinn Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 *enters thread, looks around* Nothing to see here *leaves* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xpander Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 troll feed... it's scattered everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members midi Posted September 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Please bumps don't die :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -groovatious- Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the end, it comes down to Nvidia screwing up badly on package engineering and testing, then trying as best they can to bury the problem while passing the buck. It appears that every Nvidia 65nm and 55nm part with high lead bumps and/or low Tg underfill are defective, it is just a question of how defective they are, and when they will die. Why Nvidia's Chips Are Defective By Charlie Demerjian: Monday, 01 September 2008, 7:00 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Son of HuHefner Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 I have a G4 laptop. 4 and 1/2 years old, running 10.4.11 OSX like a charm Some Windows Borgians struggle with simplicity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P321 Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 Why Nvidia's Chips Are Defective By Charlie Demerjian: Monday, 01 September 2008, 7:00 PMDon't take anything written by internet rags like The Inquirer too seriously.. it's the tech equivalent of the tabloid newspaper.. That particular journalist seems to take a consistently anti Nvidia stance for whatever reason. Maybe they pissed him off by not offering a freebie trip to a certain event or something - who knows. Either way, he consistently comes at things from the same "anti" angle. EG Recent Vista crash figures show Nvidia causing 48% of crashes, Intel 31% and ATI 19%. So he talks about how unstable Nvidia is, whilst completely ignoring that those numbers are somewhat meaningless unless you know the percentage of users who use the hardware. If both Nvidia and Intel have a higher percentage of the market than ATi, they're likely to have a higher percentage of crashes even if the reality was their drivers were more stable on average. Likewise, with those Nvidia chip problems, there doesn't appear to be a greater failure rate for Nvidia parts than ATi parts, except in specific laptop scenarios were the chip can't be adequately cooled. But you wouldn't think that when you read that article.. As for troll posts ..The Mac is usually over priced, but tends to use lower to higher mid end hardware components. The quality is no better (or worse) than something like a (non-cheapo) Dell, except for the design aspects which some prefer. Although I would say, if you want a robust laptop, you can do better elsewhere than Apple, but that won't do you much good if you need to use OSX, and installing a hacked OSX yourself isn't an option for the "average" user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 A 30% loss in stock value overnight speaks for itself, tabloid or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 15" 1Ghz G4 Powerbook. 6 years old. 3 trips to the Middle East. More reliable than my G5 tower. Mac OSX 10.4.11. Only 2 repairs have ever been needed. 1. Reconnect and secure the video cable. 2. Replace the battery. My Windows PC was office spaced in my backyard after receiving and getting familiar with this laptop. My windows use was put to rest in the spring of 2002 in Bury St Edmunds, England. I will not bother with a windows computer for my personal business or pleasure again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members electrobaby Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 A 30% loss in stock value overnight speaks for itself, tabloid or not. what does that have to do with the quality of a product...so the company that sells the most product has the best product... so much for boutique companies...guess they are just {censored}e....in a way I suppose Apple is the largest ever boutique company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tangerine Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 I have left PC Windows for several reasons, unstability, bluescreen, Inefficiency for driving software and so on. When I got my first Mac about 7 years ago I was blown away how good it all worked and I could not understand why I dissed Macs and OS X, yes I have also talked {censored} about Macs and the users. I think the majority of people who hate Mac and OS X have not even used it once. About the overpriced claim, if you compare the specs and components quality, Macs are not more expensive than PC, and in my eyes they are far more handsome to look at. I have not seen a PC like iMac or the old eMac, small and powerful, so how come? It is well known that Mac OS X (Unix) and Linux is far more efficient than Windows, and more stable. So why this sad thread? because of insufficient knowledge I think! If you like your Windows and PC then it is ok for me, but dont wright crap that you dont know anything of! I at least tested a Mac 7 years ago to see what it was, and I have never looked back again! In all years with Mac and OS X the computer has never failed on me once. Take a look in professional studios and I can almost guarantee you will se a Mac and OS X, and more and more science is using macs and OS X for stability. This is only my point of view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members midi Posted September 18, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 Thanks for the input - but I'll stick with Wintel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Symbiotic Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 Oh yeah....NOW I REMEMBER why I stopped reading the HC Forums... But it is sometimes fun to come back and visit and see that the 18 year old trolls still run the show... Kind of like coming to the zoo! :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 what does that have to do with the quality of a product...so the company that sells the most product has the best product... so much for boutique companies...guess they are just {censored}e....in a way I suppose Apple is the largest ever boutique company! Well from the article I read about Nvidia's design flaws, pretty lame engineering at that company. Granted I didn't realize it was from the Inquirer and that the author has some kind of personal beef with Nvidia, it just showed up in my mailbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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