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  • Yamaha - Wake-Up Call!!!!

    You've got FM, AN, VL, and FDSP developed and waiting to be integrated into a next gen board.

    Don't call it EX5v.2 though.



    (add release velocity and better modulation capabilities and you might get a customer back).

  • #2
    Yeah, Korg really raised the bar for what you can get for around $3K, didn't they?
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    • #3
      Yamaha's resting on their laurels. :grimace: Tsk, tsk. I mean, the XF is nice, but SUDDENLY KORG!! Wake up, Yamaha!
      Hurrr. Derp, derp, derp.

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      • #4
        I'm only bashing on Yamaha a little.
        The economy is crappy, and putting out any board from any company is probably a bit risky in that sense.
        It just seems a shame these fine technologies aren't being used in current boards.

        But ya - I do think the bar has been raised, for that market. While I haven't seen the manual yet, I'm pretty sure Kronos won't ever be on my 'to get' list.
        What I expect from a board isn't overly demanding, but it is pretty specific. None of the big 3 provide what I buy.

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        • #5
          I'm planning to upgrade my "main-rompler" at next summer, if I can afford to. ATM I have good ol' Motif 7 and it's good enough for my needs, but I think it's time to upgrade. Kurzweil PC3 is interesting but Kronos really amazed me. If I sell one of my kidneys or testicles I think I'm going to get one... UNLESS Yamaha comes up with something great before it. PC3(k) and Kronos are both waaaaay ahead of XF in this competition. If you don't need flash rom, XF is nothing special. Okay, I miss tap tempo on my Motif but it is'nt worth of almost 3000EUR. XF is just upgrade of upgrade of upgrade of original Motif. New EX-5/7-workstation would be awesome.

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          • #6
            Yamaha and Roland are discontinued.
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            • #7
              IIRC Yam own a significant share of Korg, they therefore benefit from Korgs success. I get the feeling they are happy for Korg to be the leader in synthesis while they focus on the other stuff the do. I suspect they will never try to go much beyond sample playback...

              The KRONOS is the 'OASYS plus' for the masses. No one comes close... Roland have taken a different approach and they have quite a few synth engines that sound good that they could bring together as one, but I doubt we will see that for a long time, they are barking up different trees and making lots more focused gear for specialists...
              世界で最高のシンセはmicroKORGにある

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              • #8
                Yam has new modelling EP's etc... again more focus'd rather than trying to make one power house synth
                世界で最高のシンセはmicroKORGにある

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                • #9
                  IIRC Yam own a significant share of Korg


                  Not anymore, IIRC.
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                  • #10


                    IIRC Yam own a significant share of Korg, they therefore benefit from Korgs success. I get the feeling they are happy for Korg to be the leader in synthesis while they focus on the other stuff the do. I suspect they will never try to go much beyond sample playback...




                    Probably right about that. I've still got my EX5R, and a Motif ES rack with AN and DX plg boards. But the EX5 is way underpowered (it is pretty old, after all), and the plg boards are pretty clunky to use, and don't feel very well integrated at all.
                    Now that Korg is blazing the trail, I hope it'll embolden Yamaha a little to give it another try.
                    If they don't want to risk another hardware board, I think it'd be cool if they at least released a little of their technologies as softsynths.

                    (ducks).

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                    • #11
                      Don't worry about Yamaha.

                      Mike Huckabee has their back.



                      First comes Mike. Next comes WAL-MART.
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                      • #12


                        ....First comes Mike. Next comes WAL-MART.








                        Ain't even gonna' go there. That's HCPP material.
                        The recovery is well under way.

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                        • #13
                          You've got FM, AN, VL, and FDSP developed and waiting to be integrated into a next gen boad???? Can you educated the uneducated, new to the party, what do these acronyms stand for a new technology board?? Introducted at NAMM? Ya mean my Yami S90 XS is obsolete allready?

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                          • #14
                            S90XS is a nice board, but compared to the leap Kronos made at the pricetag it is as obsolete as a brontosaurus. So is all the other stuff, so no need to get worried

                            I for sure aint getting rid of my PC3 anytime soon and I suspect that your S90XS will get you through years of gigs and earn a Kronos or two.
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                            • #15
                              You've got FM, AN, VL, and FDSP developed and waiting to be integrated into a next gen boad???? Can you educated the uneducated, new to the party, what do these acronyms stand for a new technology board?? Introducted at NAMM? Ya mean my Yami S90 XS is obsolete allready?



                              They're stuff that Yamaha has developed and used in boards in the past: FM = traditional FM synthesis, like used in the Yamaha DX7. AN = virtual analog, like used in the AN1X, AN200 and others. VL = physical modeling of things like string and wind instruments. I think you can still get the VL70m as a module.
                              FDSP is unique to the EX5 range and consists of fx applied at the note level, instead of the voice level.
                              They may have been introduced at namm shows in the past.

                              And no, your S90XS isn't obsolete, and won't be for as long as you use it.
                              IMO - if it still works, it's not obsolete.
                              Things only get overshadowed, or surpassed by new developments. All that really matters for boards, is that you like and use something for what it does.

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