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  • #16
    this is what happens when you buy new.

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    • #17
      this is what happens when you buy new.


      This is what happens when you have to be the first one on the block to own something. (Sometimes you become the beta tester)

      PS - I thought the original poster was referring to the mpc-forums site... AKAI AKAI AKAI AKAI
      Akai MPC4000, Kurzweil K250 & K2661, Roland JD-990 x2 & A-70, Yamaha FS1R, Moog Voyager RME

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      • #18
        I have never felt anger concerning one of my synths or towards one of the developing companies. It just seem counter-productive and stress-inducing.


        Too many people become frustrated with their purchase, sometimes before they take it out of the box! No patience at all.

        I've been playing synths for over 20 years and recall that back in the 80's, we rarely got an updated OS or new sounds from the manufacturers. You could buy extra soundsets--often on expensive RAM cards--but that's about all.

        And people weren't flipping keyboards every 3-6 months back then either. We took the time and learned how to program our own sounds.

        Too many keyboards, not enough music.

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        • #19
          Never make assumptions on what the Marketing "Should Mean" (i.e. Common Sense) as REALITY. Never EXPECT or BELIEVE the hype about ANY feature until it SHIPS and have seen it WORK with your own eyes!


          Ya - we spent a lot of time bitching about perceived flaws over at EX5tech. If it wouldn't have been marketed as a workstation, instead as a synth, Yamaha would have had a lot less complaints.
          Same could be said for the Alesis Fusion.

          I think the OP was getting at something different though. Buying a keyboard, and then expecting additional functions to be added later. Instead of just buying a piece and using it, people expect OS updates that include extra functionality now.
          Blame the digital era, I guess.

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          • #20
            I think the OP was getting at something different though. Buying a keyboard, and then expecting additional functions to be added later. Instead of just buying a piece and using it, people expect OS updates that include extra functionality now.


            Yup, that's exactly what I'm saying.

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            • #21
              this is what happens when you buy new.


              Exactly. Early adopters tend to suffer the most, which is why I'm careful about doing it myself. Another reason is that for me it just pays to wait. I live in a city where a lot of upper middle class professionals (i.e. home players) tend to buy high-end gear, only to turn around and sell it a year and a half later in mint condition for 30-40% below retail. So, while the manufacturer is still refining the OS and releasing additional peripherals, I'm following reviews and waiting for it to show up on Craigslist.
              Kronos, Fant.G8, PC3X, K2500RS, A6, Q, M3-61, Fant.X7, Motif 8, EX5(x2), V-Synth, K2000(x2), D50, JD800, JD990, JP8080, XP30, MC909, MC505, JX-10, JX-305, TR-707, Juno 1, DR-202, Radias, Triton Pro, Wavest. SR, EMX1, ESX1, ER-1, EA-1, R3, Poly 800, RS7000, FS1R (x2), RM1X, AN200, DX200, QY70, QY100, K5000S, OB-12, Maschine,ASR10,ASR88,ASR-X Pro, EPS,Virus B, Equinox,E-Mu XL-7,MiniAK, Synthstation,X-Station, XioSynth,TG33,Venom,V50,UltraNova,Z1,Spark,Moog LP Stage II, JP8000,Tetra,Supernova 2.

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              • #22
                Being a new owner to the current workstation technology, I'm a very happy camper with my Motif XF 8.
                It's a dream come true, right here.
                But on the other hand, as I only have my old Yamaha PSS 680 & DD5 to compare it too, there isn't any comparison, none.
                So, I only wish I had some previous experience with something a bit more current, so the learning curve didn't resemble that "Double Rainbow", hahaha, not quite.
                But there is plenty for me to learn and understand about my XF 8 & DTX MULTI 12 too.
                1st reason why I count on these Forums, to help me climb over the steep hurdles, I can not leap over them,
                as many of you bright shining stars can do with your vast knowledge and seemingly rediculous amounts of technical gear.

                I WISH!!

                Chas
                Yamaha Motif XF 8
                Yamaha DTX-MULTI 12
                Yamaha LG-800
                Yamaha F C 7
                Yamaha PSS 680
                Yamaha DD5
                Yamaha PS PC-50

                Radio for music listeners
                www.ckua.com

                "Is that a real poncho, or is that a Sears poncho" FVZ

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                • #23
                  I'm angry and not going to take it anymore!

                  Yamaha refuses to update for Snow Leopard the free software they provided for a fifteen year old used synth I just bought.

                  Ensoniq went out of business rather than continue to offer service for my SQ-80.

                  Roland had the gall to drop DCB support 25 years ago.

                  Time to start up a Tea Party for synthesizers :soapbox:
                  My VCAs go to 11

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                  • #24
                    Funny that some people are already bugging Korg about future Kronos updates, and the damn synth is not even out yet.

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                    • #25
                      That's not funny, that's a crime, punishable by pushing broom at the new
                      Yahama Motif XF warehouse in your own home towns,,.
                      Or any other large metropolis cummune. where you call home, where XF's are often seen
                      running out the door with thier happy new owners/customers/consumers,,.
                      Just
                      Like
                      Me
                      Chas
                      Yamaha Motif XF 8
                      Yamaha DTX-MULTI 12
                      Yamaha LG-800
                      Yamaha F C 7
                      Yamaha PSS 680
                      Yamaha DD5
                      Yamaha PS PC-50

                      Radio for music listeners
                      www.ckua.com

                      "Is that a real poncho, or is that a Sears poncho" FVZ

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                      • #26
                        This is yet another of a billion reasons why the whole "consumer ethos" must die. Get an instrument, to make music, work with the inevitable constraints anything in reality will contain. Learn that constraints are good. Nothing is infinite, nor should you always be wishing for "more." Less is usually more, you will find. Almost always. The world is already drowning in a sea of throwaway crap that only ends up strangling penguins and dolphins; don't encourage the production of more.

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                        • #27
                          There's a lot to be said for a well made acoustic instrument, that can be passed down a generation or three.

                          Wrong forum for that here though.

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                          • #28
                            There's a lot to be said for a well made acoustic instrument, that can be passed down a generation or three.

                            Wrong forum for that here though.




                            Too bad we don't have a "Like" button ala Facebook...

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