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  • #91
    Thanks Med for that comparison. If anything, it further backs up that a 73 key weighted doesn't make sense.

    For me, I hated the 73 semi-weighted keys decision as opposed to the 76 semi-weighted on the Tritons and OASYS. Eliminating 3 keys and changing the keybed to C scale sucked and killed the M3 for ever being a primary board. So when it comes to the Kronos, if I'm stuck with weighted keys, I might as well get as many as possible.
    <b>Response from John from American Musical Supply on why I have received 2 used/damaged Korg M3's and 1 reboxed M3 from Guitar Center (a.k.a. while I'll never buy from AMS again):</b><br><br><blockquote><hr>Footfall wrote:<br><p>What you're experiencing with these units is the result of our warehouse crew intentionally &quot;overpacking&quot; this product.</p><br><hr></blockquote><br><font size="1"><i><b>Current Korg Gear:</b> KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, nanoPAD 2</i></font>

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    • #92
      Hey imagine one year if MI companies decided on the strength of sales figures not to do 88 keys and just sell a smaller weighted board plus the synth action 61... that would raise some eyebrows... LOL
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      • #93
        If they did that, I'll make my own damn keyboard, just like One Eyed Willie did in the Goonies:

        <b>Response from John from American Musical Supply on why I have received 2 used/damaged Korg M3's and 1 reboxed M3 from Guitar Center (a.k.a. while I'll never buy from AMS again):</b><br><br><blockquote><hr>Footfall wrote:<br><p>What you're experiencing with these units is the result of our warehouse crew intentionally &quot;overpacking&quot; this product.</p><br><hr></blockquote><br><font size="1"><i><b>Current Korg Gear:</b> KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, nanoPAD 2</i></font>

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        • #94
          Hey imagine one year if MI companies decided on the strength of sales figures not to do 88 keys and just sell a smaller weighted board plus the synth action 61... that would raise some eyebrows... LOL


          The pianists would stage a revolt.

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          • #95
            The pianists would stage a revolt.


            I am no Piano player, but I would join the march and support you guys...

            Long live 88 keys and long live midi connectors... lets kill all the nay sayers ;-)
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            • #96
              The pianists would stage a revolt.


              Piano players can can suck it. Steinway is going to start putting out 61 and 73 key pianos soon and may eventually phase out the 88's. Hell, they may even make they 61 key model semi-weighted!*

              They should suffer like I'm going to suffer with this freaking RH3 keybed. More gigging keyboard players play semi-weighted than weighted...




              * denotes sarcasm. Steinway is sticking with the successful 88 key hammer action keybed... for now.
              <b>Response from John from American Musical Supply on why I have received 2 used/damaged Korg M3's and 1 reboxed M3 from Guitar Center (a.k.a. while I'll never buy from AMS again):</b><br><br><blockquote><hr>Footfall wrote:<br><p>What you're experiencing with these units is the result of our warehouse crew intentionally &quot;overpacking&quot; this product.</p><br><hr></blockquote><br><font size="1"><i><b>Current Korg Gear:</b> KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, nanoPAD 2</i></font>

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              • #97
                Thanks Med for that comparison. If anything, it further backs up that a 73 key weighted doesn't make sense.

                For me, I hated the 73 semi-weighted keys decision as opposed to the 76 semi-weighted on the Tritons and OASYS. Eliminating 3 keys and changing the keybed to C scale sucked and killed the M3 for ever being a primary board. So when it comes to the Kronos, if I'm stuck with weighted keys, I might as well get as many as possible.


                Welcome McHale. The last statement in your reply is exactly what I was trying to say.

                Remember when I suggested you get the 73 instead of the 61 in some other thread? I wanted to go back on that and advise you to get the 88 instead, but I didn't want to drive you nuts, lol.

                Man I'm happy for you for getting the 88. Congrats!:thu:
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                • #98
                  Remember when I suggested you get the 73 instead of the 61 in some other thread? I wanted to go back on that and advise you to get the 88 instead, but I didn't want to drive you nuts, lol.

                  Man I'm happy for you for getting the 88. Congrats!:thu:


                  Thanks again for your advice. Yep, the 88 was pre-ordered a while ago and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the Kronos.
                  <b>Response from John from American Musical Supply on why I have received 2 used/damaged Korg M3's and 1 reboxed M3 from Guitar Center (a.k.a. while I'll never buy from AMS again):</b><br><br><blockquote><hr>Footfall wrote:<br><p>What you're experiencing with these units is the result of our warehouse crew intentionally &quot;overpacking&quot; this product.</p><br><hr></blockquote><br><font size="1"><i><b>Current Korg Gear:</b> KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, nanoPAD 2</i></font>

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                  • #99
                    I plan to get a Kronos upon availability after a test drive.

                    I'm somewhat conflicted on the 73 too. I've ALWAYS played 76 semi weighted keys.

                    I want to make the Kronos the "Main board" and controller for my rig. If I didn't like the 73 and got the 61 it doesn't make sense to put it on the top tier as the "master" and on the bottom as a 61 while my 76 key motif on top would look stupid. So I REALLY hope the RH3 is nice, and playable by not being to heavy an action. After 4 hours playing I don't know how forgiving my hands will be!

                    So where am I conflicted? Well, the 88 key is 8 inches longer and 6 more pounds. That itself is not really a big deal. Though the price difference comes into play. and now that the middle board is also weighted the price differential between these boards makes less sense than EVER! Though just taking the weight into account, one might just say "What the hell and get the 88.

                    Guess we'll all see in a couple of months!
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                    • RH3 is not too heavy - Roland and Yamaha both have heavier actions than RH3, IMHO.
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                      • On the 73 and 88, I wish they hadn't centered the controls. If they had pushed them all to one side or the other, there would be enough contiguous free space to sit an additional device of some sort of you wanted to.

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                        • Thanks Med for that comparison. If anything, it further backs up that a 73 key weighted doesn't make sense.

                          For me, I hated the 73 semi-weighted keys decision as opposed to the 76 semi-weighted on the Tritons and OASYS. Eliminating 3 keys and changing the keybed to C scale sucked and killed the M3 for ever being a primary board. So when it comes to the Kronos, if I'm stuck with weighted keys, I might as well get as many as possible.


                          Ditto, thanks Mediterranean! And the key change is actually quite significant. I wish they just cut the top register's 15 notes and kept the bottom end on a regular piano's low "A". I often play in B minor or a modal version of D sharp (I think? I'm kind of theory deficient ). But anyway, the "E" cut off on the 73 is a bit of an inconvenience. When you consider that it's only 5 pounds and 300 dollars more for the 88 key it starts to look silly not to just buy that.
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                          • On the 73 and 88, I wish they hadn't centered the controls. If they had pushed them all to one side or the other, there would be enough contiguous free space to sit an additional device of some sort of you wanted to.


                            Errrr, on the 88 key there still is. I can see that complaint with regards to the 73 though for sure.
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                            • Errrr, on the 88 key there still is. I can see that complaint with regards to the 73 though for sure.

                              Yes, more so on the 73, but even on the 88, "splitting" the free space so half of it is on each side still unnecessarily limits what you might be able to fit there.

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                              • Thanks again for the visual Mediterranean. I'm still mulling this over. I like the space conservation of the 73, it actually ends up being 3 inches less than my Studiologic VMK 188, which is 52 inches versus the 49-ish of the Kronos 73 key. The 88 key ends up being a little over 5 inches longer and an inch deeper than my VMK 188.

                                My only beef with the 73 key is the sort of odd cut of the 73. It chops off 7 notes on the lower register and 8 notes of the upper register. I really wish they'd just chopped off 15 notes off the upper register and left the lower range intact as it would be on an 88 key piano. I certainly use the bottom octave more than I use the top octave..... and I don't think I'm alone in that :idk: ...... couple that fact with the key's I generally play in (B minor, some modal version of that, and D minor and a modal version of that), it's kind of weird for the 73 to cut E1 to E7.

                                I might be nitpicking though. I have to play through some of my piano based songs and see if it would be an issue.
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