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  • Another KRONOS Youtube from Rich Formadoni

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIJEmxgCFng

    Enjoy.
    Cheers,
    Jim (aka EJ2)

  • #2
    Well, I'm still excited. And that LCD display really is enormous.

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    Edit: Actually, it turns out that I have a question for anyone who can answer. The CX-3's key split feature is pretty cool, but I know that in program mode, MIDI note data is received on the global channel -- so it would likely be pretty difficult to engineer a split so that no notes were duplicated across both the Kronos' keyboard and an external board, if one is looking for some dual-manual fun. In combi mode, that problem disappears -- just set up two CX-3 programs, with each responding to a separate MIDI channel. My question is this, though: in combi mode, do you still retain full drawbar control over a CX-3 program? (Like through Tone Adjust or any other method.)

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    Son of Edit: And while I'm at it, another question. Assuming that full drawbar control of CX-3 programs is retained in combi mode, what would be the best way to handle drawbar adjustments across two such programs? (Say, combi slot 1 being mapped to the Kronos on the upper shelf of a two-tier stand, and slot 2 responding to MIDI channel 2 from another board on the bottom shelf. The program in slot one would be set up for upper drawbars only with percussion, and the program in slot 2 would be set up for lower drawbars only, no percussion.)

    So far, as I understand it, I've got this hypothetical combi set up to roughly approximate a dual-manual organ. But now the question arises of how to handle drawbar adjustments for each manual. If the drawbars are controlled only through SysEx, then I assume that it probably isn't possible to adjust them on the program in slot 2 using, say, the sliders on an M3 -- if that were my bottom-tier board. What would be the best way to do the adjustment, then? Touch the screen to select program 2, then do the adjustments on the Kronos' sliders, as normal? And can a CX-3 program be set up for combi mode so that the faders by default map to the lower drawbars, instead of the upper?

    Or am I making this way more complicated than it needs to be?

    Hope that makes sense.

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    • #3
      I've noticed an unusual behaviour of the keyboard. When you press a couple of keys harder, the whole keyboard seems to be moving downwards independently of the rest of the synth. See the video between 5:40-60 marks. This is something I've never seen on any other synth.

      Also, does Kronos 61 have after touch?

      Last, we need more demos of MOD7. Bells are nice, EP is nice but I look forward to replacing my DX7 with the Kronos and I would welcome some extended demos of the MOD7 engine. I'm especially interested in hearing some warm brass, xylos, marimbas, blown pipes, warm organic pads, electric bass and vocaloid choirs that the DX7 excells at. The weirdness and aggressive stuff is too common, not worth a demo IMHO.

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      • #4
        I've noticed an unusual behaviour of the keyboard. When you press a couple of keys harder, the whole keyboard seems to be moving downwards independently of the rest of the synth. See the video between 5:40-60 marks. This is something I've never seen on any other synth.


        Yeah, I was going to say you might be looking a little too closely, but once I did it was definitely true. Odd.

        I agree about the MOD-7 engine. I'd like some demos of how you can use it to manipulate sample oscillators, as I'd be hoping to buy a Kronos instead of a Nord Wave or Blofeld AND Roland RD700-NX. Two birds in one board would be nice......
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        • #5
          I've noticed an unusual behaviour of the keyboard. When you press a couple of keys harder, the whole keyboard seems to be moving downwards independently of the rest of the synth. See the video between 5:40-60 marks. This is something I've never seen on any other synth.


          That key bed definitely looks loose. In other shots you can see the whole key bed bouncing independently of the case.
          lots of gear and not a computer in sight.

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          • #6
            Also, does Kronos 61 have after touch?


            Yes.
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            • #7
              Hi folks,

              You're not crazy, the keybed is a bit loose. Please disregard the state of my prototype 61-key. This was hand-assembled outside of our production facilities, and has undergone numerous... "experiments."

              Citizen Klaus, yes, you still have drawbar control in Combi mode... and you can specify which drawbars (upper, lower) are being controlled from within Tone Adjust mode. So, one solution might be to use a dual-manual CX-3 program, keep the sliders in Tone Adjust mode, and asign a few drawbars to upper and the remaining ones to lower. I know it's not full control, but it's an option. If you don't mind using knobs, you can also assign the 8 knobs above the sliders to drawbar controls, thereby giving you all 9 drawbars for one manual, and 8 for the other.

              Regarding MOD-7, in some of my videos I play a digeridoo sound... That's utilizing a PCM sample. We'll have more audio demos up for you soon.

              And yes, all three versions have pressure-sensitive aftertouch.

              Hope this helps.
              -Rich
              Richard Formidoni
              Technology Product Manager
              Korg USA, Inc.

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              • #8
                It does sound great... I love the korg sound/(samples) for some reason, especially the pad like sounds...

                Still going to wait for the next kurz before deciding though.

                I wonder how well it would do on "evildragon's piano test".

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                • #9
                  Please disregard the state of my prototype 61-key. This was hand-assembled outside of our production facilities, and has undergone numerous... "experiments."


                  Hmmm... when you come to Chicago-land, can I bring my tools? I'd love to tear someone else's open for a change. It's not like you can't get another one!

                  BTW, when ARE you coming to Chicago-land? Since my NAMM badge never showed up, I'd hope I'd be at least invited to a Kronos event...

                  Jus' sayin'

                  BTW, this is probably the best Kronos demo so far... thanks!
                  Response from John from American Musical Supply on why I have received 2 used/damaged Korg M3's and 1 reboxed M3 from Guitar Center (a.k.a. why I'll never buy from AMS again): Footfall wrote:What you're experiencing with these units is the result of our warehouse crew intentionally "overpacking" this product.Current Korg Gear: KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, nanoPAD 2

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                  • #10
                    I'd really like to see a video of MOD-7 being programmed as well.

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                    • #11

                      Regarding MOD-7, in some of my videos I play a digeridoo sound... That's utilizing a PCM sample. We'll have more audio demos up for you soon.


                      From what I've heard from other Korg reps on here thus far, as well as from Oasys owners, is that MOD-7's architecture allows for samples to be a source for frequency modulating oscillators, but not the other way around. That's more or less fine, as the same is true for the Nord Wave, which is billed as a sample manipulation synth. However, my understanding goes that on the Kronos you can still modulate the pitch of samples via LFOs and other modulation sources. Am I correct on all of that Rich?

                      I'm just hoping to be able to do pretty much everything I could do on a Nord Wave. I've heard that you can't modulate a sample with another sample ala the Waldorf Blofeld, but the additional effects and filters present on the Kronos could definitely outweigh that fact for me.
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                      • #12
                        From what I've heard from other Korg reps on here thus far, as well as from Oasys owners, is that MOD-7's architecture allows for samples to be a source for frequency modulating oscillators, but not the other way around. That's more or less fine, as the same is true for the Nord Wave, which is billed as a sample manipulation synth. However, my understanding goes that on the Kronos you can still modulate the pitch of samples via LFOs and other modulation sources. Am I correct on all of that Rich?


                        Pretty much! In MOD-7, you can manipulate the different elements (PCM, VPM oscs, mixers, filters, noise generator, audio input) with a patch bay. The PCM sample element has an output, but not an input, so it can be used as a modulator, but it can't be modulated by one of the VPM oscs.

                        You can, however, modify the PCM with any AMS source, keyboard tracking, Waveshaping, filters, or any of the internal effect processors. I'd recommend digging heavily into Waveshaping... There's a lot of fun to be had there.
                        Richard Formidoni
                        Technology Product Manager
                        Korg USA, Inc.

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                        • #13
                          Pretty much! In MOD-7, you can manipulate the different elements (PCM, VPM oscs, mixers, filters, noise generator, audio input) with a patch bay. The PCM sample element has an output, but not an input, so it can be used as a modulator, but it can't be modulated by one of the VPM oscs.

                          You can, however, modify the PCM with any AMS source, keyboard tracking, Waveshaping, filters, or any of the internal effect processors. I'd recommend digging heavily into Waveshaping... There's a lot of fun to be had there.


                          Will do!

                          I can't wait to try one of these out
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                          • #14
                            94.0938475% of the people who will buy the Kronos will probably use 2 synth engines at the most. If I ever get one, I will abuse HD-1 like a red-headed step-.......hmmm................-sequencer.
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                            • #15
                              Hmmm... when you come to Chicago-land, can I bring my tools? I'd love to tear someone else open for a change.


                              Thanks for the kind words... but your wording makes me want to stay veeeery far away.
                              Richard Formidoni
                              Technology Product Manager
                              Korg USA, Inc.

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