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  • Is the Kurzweil PC3/PC361 being discontinued?

    If so what is replacing them the PK &LE series?

  • #2
    Yes, I believe that the 3K series is essentially the replacement for the 3 line. It's basically the same board, with the addition of 128 mb of fillable sample memory.

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    • #3
      If so what is replacing them the PK &LE series?

      Discontinued but still supported. A new software update was just released for the pc3/pc361. Also a new rom board is in the works so buy with confidence.
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      • #4
        The only differences between the PC3 and the PC3K are:

        1) The K has wood end panels
        2) The K allows you to load 128K of user samples into Flash memory which is available on boot up
        3) The K has a USB port that allows you to use a thumb drive to load samples and OS updates

        The original PC3 has:
        1) Plastic end panels
        2) No flash memory. Instead, there's room for an additional ROM expansion board, which will most likely never be manufactured.
        3) Uses a XD memory card instead of a USB port. There is an onboard USB port that will allow you to connect to a computer for OS updates/saving files, but you can't use it to save/load from a thumb drive. YOu'll need an XD card for that. You can find these on eBay. Only some kinds of XD cards are compatible. See Kurzweil's site for specs.

        As noted above, there is a forthcoming ROM expansion in the works, which will be compatible with both the PC3 and PC3K series.

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        • #5
          The original PC3 has:
          3) Uses a XD memory card instead of a USB port. There is an onboard USB port that will allow you to connect to a computer for OS updates/saving files, but you can't use it to save/load from a thumb drive.


          It's always amazed me how far behind keyboard companies are when it comes to technology. The USB interface has been around since the 90's!

          Too many keyboards, not enough music.

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          • #6
            It's always amazed me how far behind keyboard companies are when it comes to technology. The USB interface has been around since the 90's!


            The interface existed in the 90s, but no thumb drives did, so it would not have been a sensible approach. XD card was a reasonable solution at the time.

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            • #7
              The interface existed in the 90s, but no thumb drives did, so it would not have been a sensible approach.



              Well, USB thumb drives have been around for quite awhile now.

              Now that I think of it, the Korg M3 and Yamaha Motif XS were released before the Kurzweil PC3 series and they both have USB ports for external hard drives/flash drives.

              Too many keyboards, not enough music.

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              • #8
                Good point. I got sidetracked by your 90s reference, but the PC3 didn't come out until 2008, which would seem to make XD a kind of odd choice.

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                • #9
                  Now that I think of it, the Korg M3 and Yamaha Motif XS were released before the Kurzweil PC3 series and they both have USB ports for external hard drives/flash drives.


                  And R&D for PC3 was conceived BEFORE M3 and XS (in 2003 or 2004 IIRC, when Kurzweil was just FIVE PEOPLE!!!), Kurzweil at that point decided on using xD and when the design was done it was too late to do any changes.
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                  • #10
                    It's always amazed me how far behind keyboard companies are when it comes to technology. The USB interface has been around since the 90's!

                    Facepalm? Really?

                    What else should they use? Thunderbolt? USB is stable, easy to program, consistent, affordable, and universal.

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                    • #11
                      If so what is replacing them the PK &LE series?


                      Over the past year, the PC3 has been phased out and gradually replaced with the Pc3K line.

                      You still might be able to find a good deal on a PC3/PC361 as some dealers still have them.

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                      • #12
                        Facepalm? Really?

                        What else should they use? Thunderbolt? USB is stable, easy to program, consistent, affordable, and universal.


                        You misunderstood... I think all keyboards should have a USB interface, since it's stable and common. I was amazed the original PC3 series didn't have USB for external patch storage.

                        It's taken most all keyboard companies forever to come "onboard" with current technology. Look at the original Triton--it still had a floppy drive in 1999!
                        Too many keyboards, not enough music.

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                        • #13
                          Over the past year, the PC3 has been phased out and gradually replaced with the Pc3K line.

                          You still might be able to find a good deal on a PC3/PC361 as some dealers still have them.


                          Ummm....they do? After I was told last year at this time that only B-stocks were available?
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                          • #14
                            Ummm....they do? After I was told last year at this time that only B-stocks were available?


                            I just got a new non B stock PC361 last month. You've been lied to.

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                            • #15
                              I just got a new non B stock PC361 last month. You've been lied to.


                              Maybe not lied to.... it just depends on the specific dealer, and the distributors in each country. Some dealers might have a few units left.... but the PC3 and PC3x are getting harder to find "new" at this point, while there still seems to be a supply of PC361s.

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