Members RetroVintageOld Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members holdsg Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 Chick Corea's "Spain" and "La Fiesta" are some good ones, although not exactly what you said you were looking for, then there is the Return to Forever (with Al Dimeola, Stanley Clarke, and Lenny White), really out there stuff for its day. Ray Charles played a mean Rhodes, check out some of his old stuff. As does Bob James. that's about how far my brain can be racked on older Rhodes players other than Herbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry_L Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 [video=youtube;zQYYGGML49c] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 When I think Jazz Rhodes I actually think Chick Corea... [video=youtube;ry9yNE9GYus]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry9yNE9GYus [video=youtube;LSJ_OxTSyWA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 You won't find much Rhodes in bop and swing settings for obvious reasons...it didn't even exist until the late sixties! There are recordings of Duke Ellington playing a Wurlitzer back in the 50s, not sure if they are currently available (I have them on an OOP Mosaic boxset). There's an old Columbia LP called "The Bill Evans Album" where Bill plays Rhodes on about half the tunes. Joe Zawinul with Cannonball Adderly, "Mercy Mercy Mercy", "Country Preacher", etc. though that's more "soul jazz" than bebop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry_L Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 Not pure jazz, more soul, but great Rhodes playing. Did You Feel That? (1994) Joe Sample http://www.fenderrhodes.com/v2/records/150/Joe+Sample+Did+You+Feel+That%3F.html Name: farmer Rating: 5 / 5 Comments: this album is a must have for fender funk lovers. a fantastic line-up: Joe Sample (rhodes), Steve Gadd (drums) and a funky horn section. Also useful developping your own skills and timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry_L Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 Hampton Hawes also played the Rhodes in the early '70's. Northern Windows is one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Wu Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 i love Deodatos Rhodesplaying. Very rhythmic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members piano39 Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 Late to this thread, but i second the motion on: Bill Evans Deodata (Also Sprach Zarathustra) Joe Sample Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RetroVintageOld Posted August 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 "You won't find much Rhodes in bop and swing settings for obvious reasons...it didn't even exist until the late sixties!" I know that. But I was hoping there are some modern (still alive, playing in 2012) straight ahead jazz groups who just happen to use a rhodes and might have recorded a CD of standards or something. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Real MC Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 Any Crusaders before 1978. Joe Sample does great Rhodes work on that stuff. I have a 1978 CD of them during the disco era - fusion to a disco beat. YUK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poserp Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 A personal fav: [video=youtube;X0t5EDALdNI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0t5EDALdNI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry_L Posted August 23, 2012 Members Share Posted August 23, 2012 "You won't find much Rhodes in bop and swing settings for obvious reasons...it didn't even exist until the late sixties!" I know that. But I was hoping there are some modern (still alive, playing in 2012) straight ahead jazz groups who just happen to use a rhodes and might have recorded a CD of standards or something.thanks Very doubtful one exists. The only advantage of using a Rhodes back in the day was portability and lack of tuning issues. These days you can get pretty darn good sampled acoustic piano sounds with the same advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Synthaholic Posted August 24, 2012 Members Share Posted August 24, 2012 I was going to suggest some Ramsey Lewis, but he's a bit more on the funk side. Good Rhodes playing on "Sun Goddess" and Earth, Wind & Fire is the backup band. I'm a big fan of Dan Siegel's playing, and he does a lot of Rhodes work. You may also want to look into some 1960s Brazilian jazz Bossa Nova stuff, like Gilberto, Wanderley, Jobim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tspit74 Posted August 24, 2012 Members Share Posted August 24, 2012 Chick's still the Man. Light as a Feather is my all-time favorite slab of jazz on vinyl, but its more latin. Vince Guaraldi had some great Rhodes jazz. Another favorite of mine is Michael Franks' The Art of Tea album. Contemporary (For 1976) vocal-pop-jazz. But Joe Sample is absolutely amazing throughout. He plays Rhodes exclusively on the whole album with the exception of the last song on which he plays acoustic piano. Amazing tone and amazing playing that serves the songs perfectly. Then there's all the late 70's yacht rock stuff that has the stereo suitcase Rhodes bathed in Phase 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted August 24, 2012 Members Share Posted August 24, 2012 Very doubtful one exists. The only advantage of using a Rhodes back in the day was portability and lack of tuning issues. These days you can get pretty darn good sampled acoustic piano sounds with the same advantages. Well, Chick for one has a Motif on stage for piano sounds AND a grand piano sometimes - yet he still brings his Rhodes along anyway. It's its own instrument, not a piano substitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikelpanky Posted August 24, 2012 Members Share Posted August 24, 2012 To me, the Rhodes IS Joe Zawinul and Chick Corea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nillerbabs Posted August 24, 2012 Members Share Posted August 24, 2012 Agreed, on old material you're going to find more latin material. But check out Clare Fischer. "Morning", though a lovely latin tune, displays some double tempo lines with distinct bebop traits. I am hopefully going to purchase a Vintage Vibe Piano this year or the next (as soon I can get my hands on one and verify that it certainly is made for me anyway), which is basically a new Rhodes. I don't have many bebop tunes in my repetoire, but there's one that's pretty much in tjat ballpark, and once I have a Rhodes recording of it, I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chevybusa Posted August 24, 2012 Members Share Posted August 24, 2012 +INFINITY for Chic Corea, he's hands down my fav Rhodes player...my fav example of jazz Rhodes playing would be : [video=youtube;b3yAq20qSm4] Also, can't find the original on youtube, but his Rhodes playing on Return to Forever's "Captain Senor Mouse" is just as {censored}ing mindblowing in my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chevybusa Posted August 24, 2012 Members Share Posted August 24, 2012 Oh {censored}!!! How could I forget Jan Hammer's Rhodes playing on the first 3 Mahavishnu Orchestra albums?!?!?!?!? He also used synths and acoustic piano, but he definitely played some FANTASTIC Rhodes as well.. That's definitely up there with CC's Rhodes playing for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marsalone Posted August 25, 2012 Members Share Posted August 25, 2012 You might want to check out Walter Bishop Jr. and Hampton Hawes like the other guy said. Bishop is a bop pianist who is strongly infuenced by Bud Powell and played with Charlie Parker from '49 and later. In the early '70s he recorded several albums on the Rhodes but still plays bebop style. Hampton Hawes too. He always played with his own bebop style and recorded a few albums in the '70s on Rhodes. Of course there is always someone like Les McCann who played soul jazz on Rhodes too. Not exactly bop but still good. Hancock and Corea aren't really bop pianists, they're like the next generation after bop. A great resource for finding Rhodes recordings is the Never Enough Rhodes blog. There are all kinds of Rhodes albums discussed, jazz, latin, soul etc. Over there I found out about lots of albums where my favorite pianists played Rhodes but had never heard about since a lot of the dated 70's Rhodes albums haven't been rereleased on CD and the jazz community tries to block the 70's from their memories. The Never Enough Rhodes blog is a great place to dig and discover like a great used record store flipping through album covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bosendorff Posted August 25, 2012 Members Share Posted August 25, 2012 [video=youtube;lNjQHq1gXyc] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry_L Posted August 25, 2012 Members Share Posted August 25, 2012 Well, Chick for one has a Motif on stage for piano sounds AND a grand piano sometimes - yet he still brings his Rhodes along anyway. It's its own instrument, not a piano substitute. I knew someone would respond this way. Of course the Rhodes is a viable voice of it's own. However, as soon as you apply that voice, the music becomes something other than traditional jazz. Chick uses it in a fusion setting. I don't think there are any contemporary traditional players who use that voice to perform swing and standards, which is what the OP seems to be looking for. The music virtually becomes fusion by definition as soon as you switch to a Rhodes voice. It is possible that Hampton Hawes and others who employed the Rhodes in the early '70's were not just concerned with portability and tuning, but were also trying to sound modern. However, anyone performing standards today with a Rhodes voice would be perceived differently. But if that's what the OP wants to do, go for it, I don't mean to discourage anyone. If you can make it sound good, people should dig it. It might be just what the world is waiting for, for all I know. I, for one, would rather listen to jazz standards on EP all day than most contemporary popular music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted August 27, 2012 Members Share Posted August 27, 2012 A great resource for finding Rhodes recordings is the Never Enough Rhodes blog. +1000 lots of great stuff available there, from funk to fusion to free. neverenoughrhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted August 27, 2012 Members Share Posted August 27, 2012 I knew someone would respond this way. Of course the Rhodes is a viable voice of it's own. However, as soon as you apply that voice, the music becomes something other than traditional jazz. Chick uses it in a fusion setting. I don't think there are any contemporary traditional players who use that voice to perform swing and standards, which is what the OP seems to be looking for. The music virtually becomes fusion by definition as soon as you switch to a Rhodes voice.It is possible that Hampton Hawes and others who employed the Rhodes in the early '70's were not just concerned with portability and tuning, but were also trying to sound modern. However, anyone performing standards today with a Rhodes voice would be perceived differently. But if that's what the OP wants to do, go for it, I don't mean to discourage anyone. If you can make it sound good, people should dig it. It might be just what the world is waiting for, for all I know. I, for one, would rather listen to jazz standards on EP all day than most contemporary popular music. You can't limit a genre to instruments... You can play standards on guitars, and with wind instruments... so saying a piano is OK but a Rhodes isn't, doesn't sound right to me. But to each their own... what you are saying seems to be more rooted in your personal taste than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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