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  • Question about synth programming (MoPho)

    When adjusting parameters on a MoPho patch the editor has a few bits of terminology that I don't quite understand.

    When assigning a value to "Low Pass", what is it actually changing? The Frequency knob in the LP filter section? If so, does that mean that I'm effectively bypassing the ADSR shape of the LP filter? Because I also notice that there's an "Env 1 Amount" which seems to be the LP Filter section Amount knob. I'm assuming these aren't the same.

    Most or all of the other questions I have can probably be answered by me just learning more about creating patches for subtractive synthesis units. Does anyone have any good resources you know of? I'm to the point where I'm starting to experiment with using the LFO sections to do more than just pitch oscillation. Up to this point I have basically just produced sounds by filtering a combination of the two waveforms and subs. Going through some of the default patches I can see some interesting routing where the LFO is changing things in the waveform generation (adjusting Pulse width, or doing things with the LP filter) so I'm looking to expand my understanding of how this all works together.

    Finally, if anyone knows of any good resources for MoPho patches that I can look at, I'd be interested in taking a look. Primarily interested in Lead sounds, definitely not interested in sequence based sounds, since I'm using a Wind controller with the MoPho.
    I play amplified/electric bassoon. Everything you see me post about remember I'm not using my gear with guitar pretty much ever.

  • #2
    I think you need to read up the basics of sound synthesis:

    http://www.synth.tk/
    http://www.reverbnation.com/christianschulze

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    • #3
      That guide is exactly what I've been looking for. Usually the guides start super basic, explaining what a Square wave is, for instance, and then jump way ahead into patching stuff together without explaining the other basic elements of the synth first.

      That will definitely help.
      I play amplified/electric bassoon. Everything you see me post about remember I'm not using my gear with guitar pretty much ever.

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      • #4
        Good luck and come back soon and show us how your music is progressing
        http://www.reverbnation.com/christianschulze

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        • #5
          Oh the music is well and progressed. More music degrees than I should have received probably. I'm just new to the synth world. :-)

          www.artforhunting.com
          I play amplified/electric bassoon. Everything you see me post about remember I'm not using my gear with guitar pretty much ever.

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          • #6
            Ah thanks for that. I dig the music. I guess you're the guy playing the bassoon?

            Edit: just confirmed that by reading your profile, simples
            http://www.reverbnation.com/christianschulze

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            • #7
              "Electric bassoon"? Well, well! Who knew?
              Hurrr. Derp, derp, derp.

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              • #8
                "Electric bassoon"? Well, well! Who knew?


                MIDI Bassoon FTW
                All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)

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                • #9
                  I had a G2M thingy for a while. Didn't track all that well and didn't send breath control changes, just velocity (it was meant for guitar, after all) so it wasn't very useful for me.

                  And the Yamaha WX5 has 8 octaves of range and will only be limited by my abilities with it. The Yamaha WX5 and the MoPho are an amazing pair. I also have a Yamaha YX81z but haven't got too deep in programming it yet.

                  I play amplified/electric bassoon. Everything you see me post about remember I'm not using my gear with guitar pretty much ever.

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                  • #10
                    The envelope modulates the signal from its current level, which can be adjusted by the knob or MIDI. So the cutoff control and envelope amount work simultaneously.
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                    • #11
                      So, does that mean that yes, the "Low Pass" destination is indeed the "Frequency" knob of the editor?
                      I play amplified/electric bassoon. Everything you see me post about remember I'm not using my gear with guitar pretty much ever.

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                      • #12
                        Yes.
                        Hurrr. Derp, derp, derp.

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                        • #13
                          ...the editor has a few bits of terminology that I don't quite understand...
                          I can understand the confusion. That's just bad labeling, imo. A control called "Low Pass" could mean at least three different things.

                          Good songs on your site, btw. All original? I like Salty Goth Snacks, good stuff!

                          After you master the MoPho, you should save up for an Eventide Harmonzer like the bassoon guy with Bela Fleck. It sounds amazing.

                          But the important thing is: Who's a bassoonist's favorite actress?

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                          Lauren Bocal.
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                          • #14
                            Thanks man. Yeah, all originals. I do use a harmonizer on the M13 (smart harmony in a key) on one of our tunes. The thing about Paul with his Eventide unit (which was destroyed in a car accident of all things, then 9 years later he buys another off eBay...) is that he spent SO much time programming it and using a foot controller to adjust the harmonies. He had to build a sequence that would fit a musical idea he wanted and had to do that way ahead of time. I just can't see bringing all that gear just for one cool, yet essentially a gimmicky, effect. Don't tell him I said that though.

                            The thing about the MoPho, Between it and the TX81z I have all the synth sounds I want, and it's not even about the sounds for me, it's about learning the new instrument (the MIDI wind controller). The method of playing and fingerings are nothing at all like the bassoon, so it's like learning an entirely new wind instrument for me. I'll probably eventually settle on three or four sounds that I always fall back on, and only go beyond that for special occasions or particular parts for various tunes. If I even use it that much.
                            I play amplified/electric bassoon. Everything you see me post about remember I'm not using my gear with guitar pretty much ever.

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                            • #15
                              he spent SO much time programming it and using a foot controller to adjust the harmonies.
                              Huh. I figured he just picked some fixed intervals, then set and forget it.

                              I'm surprised the WX doesn't let you create your own custom key maps. How dare they not offer a bassoon template! But I suppose, also, that the keys just aren't in the right places.

                              Pogo97 is right: the world needs a midi bassoon. I'll bet Electric Puppy would build you one...
                              ComputerMusicGuide.com

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