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  • Square room, hard surfaces, sounds like crap

    Oh, hai there.



    Sooooooo teh new Casa de Puppy has a nice new studio room that I'm getting set up. So far, so good, But! I've set up my Rokits (w/ sub), and it totally sounds like ass in there. Reflection City, boomy bass. The room is 13 x 13 with a 9 foot ceiling, painted drywall with hardwood floor.



    What do??



    I know very little about how to approach acoustic room treatment, does anyone have any pointers? I suspect that lining the walls with cardboard egg cartons will earn me serious scorn from SWMBO, so that's out.



    Suggestions? Thanks, y'all!
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    Photo, for your amusement:



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    • #3
      hang quilts on the walls?



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      • #4
        Possibly, possibly. Not sure if it would be effective, or just FABULOUS.
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        • #5
          Yep, Puppy, you need to put something in there or you'll have bad resonances going. Puppy, in my home studio I built my own sound panels. It's considerably cheaper than buying them from a company, and it's a few weekends' job if you want. There are instructions all over the web on how to make them, and there are different styles and opinions. If you want to see how I made mine, this is the build thread:



          http://www.gearslutz.com/board/bass-...to-thread.html



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          Recording studio: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...o-photo-thread
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          • #6
            Very nice, Paolo, thanks! I may have questions later, if you don't mind.
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              Quote Originally Posted by ElectricPuppy
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              Very nice, Paolo, thanks! I may have questions later, if you don't mind.




              Of course, no problem.. ask away
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              • #8
                13 X 13? Not workable. To be Golden Sectionially Compliant, you're gonna need to move a wall.

                FYI, if you're adjacent to SWMBO's Mba, you're SOL, imho.



                Y U NO USE BASS TRAPS???
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                • #9
                  Put egg trays on the walls



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                  • #10
                    Nice thick rug on the floor.
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                    • #11






                      Quote Originally Posted by mate_stubb
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                      Nice thick rug on the floor.






                      ... and also on two adjacent walls.



                      or the advice you dont want to hear: use a different room; square is as bad as it gets next to cubesauce.
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                      • #12
                        I'm stuck with this room, Clav, so I'll have to make-do.



                        Paolo: I see that your DIY project was about 3 years ago, have you changed anything since? Like, did you flip them around so the fiberglass was facing the wall? Did you leave any spacing between the panels and the wall, and did it make any difference?



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                        • #13
                          Breaking up the opposing surfaces the standing waves are forming between might help as well.



                          You could do a bit of a build and put in a false wall that's at a shallow angle.



                          Getting some sort of room divider thingy and setting it back behind the keyboards might be a lot less trouble, as might putting in shelving and putting stuff on it, both likely to have quite a good WAF.



                          I love my attic studio even if it;s too hot in summer and too cold in winter... there's hardly any parallel surfaces at all!
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                            Quote Originally Posted by ElectricPuppy
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                            I'm stuck with this room, Clav, so I'll have to make-do.



                            Paolo: I see that your DIY project was about 3 years ago, have you changed anything since? Like, did you flip them around so the fiberglass was facing the wall? Did you leave any spacing between the panels and the wall, and did it make any difference?







                            From what I saw, his traps just had fabric on them for aesthetics, so it would make no difference if they were turned around. But they should be off set from the wall, to work properly. You need that space to trap the waves. They are only for lows though, for bouncy highs carpet hung with drywall screws works nicely. You could use some orange shag, for when you are pounding on your space-vag.
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                            • #15
                              Easiest way to get rid of standing waves is make your room NOT resemble a square. Get some sound dampening panels and make it a trapezoidal room (so just need to place them on two adjacent walls). Place serrated sound dampening foam on the ceiling. Add bookshelves on side walls irregularly filled with books (great for high frequency dispersion). Add a sofa in the back to serve as a bass trap. Lots of tricks there.
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