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  • I suppose that this is just a general/last gasp/ attempt at posting here

    Is there anyone here interesting in less traditional gear?

    Ciat lonbarde, blippoo, gotharman, even Serge, etc, in the context of non harmonic, 'experimental' music?

    Discussions on more philosophical subjects like what music really is, and in what general context the question can even be interpreted?

    There used to be a number of people here who liked discussing such issues. I even have a strong recollection (back when he considered me to be other than subhuman) of Gus passionately defending John Cage here.

    Even trolls like ADSR could inspire heated arguments that did center around some important issues.

    Does any of that still exist here, or is it simply all 'community' and nothing of topical substance? In spite of myself, I have an affection for this place, but I realize that mods and former mods would rather I just leave. I don't post here now (except off topic) because there is generally nothing at all that is interesting to me. But still I persist. Perhaps that is just indicative of my psychosis.

    I don't even start threads anymore (except occasional spam threads which tend to be ignored anyway) because my perception is that no one is interested here in anything but the most popular gear, and traditional electronic music. (well, I know at least one person who has some interest, but that's not enough, really).

    I don't even know why I"m posting this. I suppose I don't even care much now whether I"m banned again, though I'm not trying to be, and I don't think that this thread is close to making that threshold anyway.

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    I feel you brother. You do realize they banned Diametro today for making the same point, albeit less diplomatically than you.

    The passive-aggressive thought they won years ago, stomping out all of us little fire-starters. You can tell they certainly think they own the place now. It stinks like a retirement home in here.
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    • #3
      There used to be a number of people here who liked discussing such issues. I even have a strong recollection (back when he considered me to be other than subhuman) of Gus passionately defending John Cage here.

      I'm with Gus on that one.

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      • #4
        I feel you brother. You do realize they banned Diametro today for making the same point, albeit less diplomatically than you.


        It wasn't the message, it was the delivery.

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        • #5
          Yes


          Yes. Very much so. Chance music, Tape music, etc. fascinate me lately.


          Yes.


          I'm with Gus on that one.


          Then lets try to make this place more interesting again. I totally disagree with the notion that because things are 'easier' for the mods, that this forum is the better for it.

          I also realize in parallel with that that I have been a difficult person to live with. These are not contradictory notions.

          I do have lots of experience with some of the gear that I've mentioned, and I also make music that many here would put quote around ('music'). I personally believe that issues like 'what is music, really' is extremely important, just as exploring preconceptions are essential in exploring the world/politics, etc, in this 21st century (god, did I actually say that. I must be drunk)

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          • #6
            Believe it or not, I'm happy to see this thread.

            C'mon, folks! Don't leave Drool hangin', I know there some of you out there that like this stuff.
            <div class="signaturecontainer"><div align="right">Hurrr. Derp, derp, derp.</div></div>

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            • #7
              I feel you brother. You do realize they banned Diametro today for making the same point, albeit less diplomatically than you.

              The passive-aggressive thought they won years ago, stomping out all of us little fire-starters. You can tell they certainly think they own the place now. It stinks like a retirement home in here.


              hah. I miss you! This is with full recognition that we had horribly heated political exchanges. But they were so much more vital than what's here now.

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              • #8
                Believe it or not, I'm happy to see this thread.

                C'mon, folks! Don't leave Drool hangin', I know there some of you out there that like this stuff.


                And Mr. Puppy. We have had such acrimonious history. But what tends to win out in my conflicted, aging, though still feisty brain, is that you allowed me back in here when i was ostensibly banned for life.

                Let me say this gratuitously. I think that it just totally sucked that Diametro called purity control a "whore". But ultimately, my belief is that one should always look for an excuse to NOT ban someone. I understand why you did it. But if she would allow him back in, I'd say, be generous. And I emphasize - Diametro is someone that overwhelmingly I have not gotten along with. So, I say this respectfrully and I hope it's taken that way.

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                • #9
                  Is there anyone here interesting in less traditional gear?

                  Ciat lonbarde, blippoo, gotharman, even Serge, etc, in the context of non harmonic, 'experimental' music?


                  Sure. donaldcrunk and me at least. I guess Allerian still pokes his head in here once in a while.

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                  • #10
                    Duly noted. Thank you for your frankness.

                    But I want to hear more about weird sounds. Carry on!
                    <div class="signaturecontainer"><div align="right">Hurrr. Derp, derp, derp.</div></div>

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                    • #11
                      Duly noted. Thank you for your frankness.

                      But I want to hear more about weird sounds. Carry on!


                      This was more of a general, drunken, curmudgeonly, frustration post. A slightly more specific thread followed shortly thereafter.

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                      • #12
                        My heroes









                        <div class="signaturecontainer">My VCAs go to<b> 11</b></div>

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                        • #13
                          I am really interested in the less traditional stuff. I have a sizable Eurorack system going and am as much or more into the sound I make than something structured.

                          I am told by local modular folks that one has to experience patching a Serge to really grok it.

                          Have you guys seen the documentary What the Future Sounded Like from AU about EMS? I thought it was excellent. It contains much interview material of the original guys from EMS (Peter Zinovieff, Tristram Cary, David Cockerell). You can find it on YouTube. WARNING it is NOT SAFE FOR WORK. There is a discussion in the documentary about groups like Hawkwind imagining using early synthesizers to take people on trips without using drugs and video clips from their early live shows which contain nudity.

                          I am also a very difficult person. I just happen to be pretty nice here. My wife is a saint, which is one of many reasons why I am totally devoted to her.
                          <div class="signaturecontainer">Gribs<br />
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                          <font size="1"><i>...Music can be used to stimulate mass emotion, while mathematics cannot; and musical incapacity is recognized (no doubt rightly) as mildly discreditable, whereas most people are so frightened of the name of mathematics that they are ready, quite unaffectedly, to exaggerate their own mathematical stupidity.<br />
                          </i><br />
                          G.H. Hardy in A Mathematician's Apology (London 1941).</font></font></div>

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                          • #14
                            I feel you brother. You do realize they banned Diametro today for making the same point, albeit less diplomatically than you.



                            I don't want to split hairs, but we BOTH know that's not why he was banned. As far as I can tell, making a constructive comment about how to improve this forum doesn't get you banned. Calling the entire forum a bunch of twats and then calling Purity Control a whore does (and should).

                            And for the life of me, I can't see why this isn't obvious.

                            I personally am very interested in talking about experimental music, nontraditional instruments, etc. It turns out I've spent a number of years doing it.

                            But let's face it. Some people just don't play well with others. They don't even care enough about others' sensibilities to not call them 'twats.'

                            It makes me think that some people turn to internet forums because they have some kind of social difficulty. Hell, it may also be why some people turn to music in the first place. There's certainly no shortage of social malcontents in the world.

                            But I'm frankly tired of hearing the claim that (1) this forum is inhabited by dull people who don't want to talk about anything interesting, and (2) the moderators are free speech stifling Nazis. I've been here. I've seen. It's just not true.

                            And I don't envy the moderators their job, either. It's like they've signed on to babysit problem children for free.
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                            • #15
                              C'mon, folks! Don't leave Drool hangin'
                              Mental image FAIL!
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