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  • #31
    The only Kurzweil Rumour on Ebay right now is overpriced. It has received lots of praise. A budget-friendly option in hardware is to consider the Eventide Space. Lots of the modular guys (including me) like those because they are knobby. They sound great and are equally happy with guitars or synths (or whatever). I have one on my modular table-thing with cables going from my Intellijel Audio interface module to it and then into my sound card. It does traditional plates and springs nicely and also has lots of funky presets that take you to outer space if desired.
    Gribs

    ...Music can be used to stimulate mass emotion, while mathematics cannot; and musical incapacity is recognized (no doubt rightly) as mildly discreditable, whereas most people are so frightened of the name of mathematics that they are ready, quite unaffectedly, to exaggerate their own mathematical stupidity.

    G.H. Hardy in A Mathematician's Apology (London 1941).

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    • #32
      No, but you can pick them up cheap on ebay. I think I bought my last one for $80-$90.
      "I remember when dubstep was just called "LFO-Locked-Filter-On-Square-Wave-Bass-Synth" in the '60s" - Alan Parsons

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      • #33
        I have an unnatural aversion to buying used gear. I know, it isn't rational.. but I have had horrible experiences in the past dealing with used gears and broken promises. Gribs, I would LOVE to score an Eventide. The reverbs alone make them worth the price, imo.
        A dead astronaut in space...

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        • #34
          Oh come on. Buy on Ebay, pay with Paypal, if there's anything wrong with it, get in touch with the seller and return it. If they act stupid (which usually they don't) you just dispute the claim. Simples.



          Thank God I've always had great luck in buying used stuff that way. Also, Craigslist is an option, though things are harder to come by...
          http://www.reverbnation.com/christianschulze

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          • #35
            Yea, there's nothing doing on Craigslist for me, at least locally, that is. And I know, my thing with used gears is totally irrational, but it's just such a hassle when things don't go right, and this has happened to me on more than once occasion. Perhaps I will give it another try, especially since I'd like not only a multi-effects unit, but also a vocal processor too.
            A dead astronaut in space...

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            • #36






              Quote Originally Posted by selfinflikted
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              I was REALLY thinking about getting the newest POD HD, because I have an older POD and I just bet the new one kicks ass. Aside from that, there are a couple of Lexicon "MX" series racks I've been pondering. Anyone have any experience with those?




              I picked up a POD HD Pro a while back for guitar stuff only and found that there's a lot to love. Even though the GUI implies that most of the effects are stompbox models, there are a lot of very clean rack-level effects in there as well. I'm completely obsessed with the particle verb on synths and the distortions add a lot of character, even at low gain settings. You can run parallel paths as well, with two amps and eight effects at once.



              Not exactly cheap tho'. If you don't need the rack format and all the extra I/O, the kidney bean-shaped desktop version is $300 cheaper.

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              • #37
                Ensoniq DP4+. LOVE IT. LOVE IT. LOVE IT!



                Before that I had a TC Electronics M300. I believe it's a direct competitor to the Lexicon MX200, so it *might* have similar sound quality. The M300 (bought used for $75) was great for the price and it was certainly better than nothing. But it wasn't special in any way.
                Prophet 08 / Odyssey / Juno-60 / CS-30 / Korg 01W / FS1R / TR-606 / RY30 / Ensoniq DP4+ /// Sonar

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                • #38
                  I have a Lexicon MX200 rack. I pretty much only use reverb so it's perfect for me (although it does offer chorus, delay, flanger, and a few extra effects). The price is nice too as it only set me back about 2 bills.
                  Gear: Alchemy - Yamaha Mox6 - Roland Gaia - Plugiator - GSI Burn

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                  • #39
                    Since we are talking guitar effects/processors/preamps, I like the recent Vox stuff much much better than the similarly priced Line 6 stuff. I'd much rather get a Tonelab EX than a POD.
                    http://www.reverbnation.com/christianschulze

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                    • #40






                      Quote Originally Posted by ChristianRock
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                      Since we are talking guitar effects/processors/preamps, I like the recent Vox stuff much much better than the similarly priced Line 6 stuff. I'd much rather get a Tonelab EX than a POD.




                      What is the rationale behind this? Strictly sound quality?



                      (ETA: I just looked this up on Sweetwater.com and listened to the 3 demos they have there. Sounds pretty nice, but I would like to hear more - I'll YouTube when I get home. Also, this thing has an actual tube in it? I would very much like to hear from anyone else that has one of these or has used one. Decisions, decisions, DECISIONS!)
                      A dead astronaut in space...

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                      • #41






                        Quote Originally Posted by The Audacity Works
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                        I picked up a POD HD Pro a while back for guitar stuff only and found that there's a lot to love. Even though the GUI implies that most of the effects are stompbox models, there are a lot of very clean rack-level effects in there as well. I'm completely obsessed with the particle verb on synths and the distortions add a lot of character, even at low gain settings. You can run parallel paths as well, with two amps and eight effects at once.



                        Not exactly cheap tho'. If you don't need the rack format and all the extra I/O, the kidney bean-shaped desktop version is $300 cheaper.




                        If I decide to upgrade to the POD HD, I will definitely be getting the 'desktop' version. The one I already have is the kidney bean type, and it's fine for my purposes. So many choices, and good ones too! I just don't know which route I want to go now...
                        A dead astronaut in space...

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                        • #42






                          Quote Originally Posted by selfinflikted
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                          What is the rationale behind this? Strictly sound quality?




                          Sound quality. I also like the interface better and the multiple choices for effects. My church was looking for a small not-too-expensive amp and I recommended the Vox VT80+ after comparing the available options under 500 dollars.



                          Line 6 has a digital sheen to it that I can so easily recognize, unless it's buried in a mix. It's probably just a pet peeve but I hate that digital high end it has...



                          It does have a tube. Vox and Korg are basically the same company now (like Akai and Alesis), so it's the same tube circuit you'll see in the electribes and the Korg SV-1, probably the same as the Triton Extreme also. It's a low voltage circuit so it's not like you're getting a big tube saturation, but it probably does have its advantages. It does sound good and that's all that matters. They don't make a desktop unit though... but I really like how their floor unit is laid out.
                          http://www.reverbnation.com/christianschulze

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                          • #43






                            Quote Originally Posted by ChristianRock
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                            Sound quality.




                            Gotcha.









                            Quote Originally Posted by ChristianRock
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                            Line 6 has a digital sheen to it that I can so easily recognize, unless it's buried in a mix. It's probably just a pet peeve but I hate that digital high end it has...




                            No, you are right on the mark with this. I notice this as well, but I was under the impression that most amp modellers had that same overly bright digital sound... so you're saying the Vox product doesn't? This is interesting. Now I'm even more interested in this product, and I've been a Line 6 fan since POD 1.somthingorother.









                            Quote Originally Posted by ChristianRock
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                            It does have a tube.




                            Interest is now steadily growing...









                            Quote Originally Posted by ChristianRock
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                            Vox and Korg are basically the same company now (like Akai and Alesis), so it's the same tube circuit you'll see in the electribes and the Korg SV-1, probably the same as the Triton Extreme also. It's a low voltage circuit so it's not like you're getting a big tube saturation, but it probably does have its advantages. It does sound good and that's all that matters. They don't make a desktop unit though... but I really like how their floor unit is laid out.




                            It's just so much cheaper than the newest POD HD stomp model... and yet, according to you, sounds better. MAN I wish I wasn't stuck at work until 50pm today cuz I'd soooooo go to the music shops in town and see if they have this Vox product. Also, I didn't know they were "basically" Korg. You KNOW I'm a HUGE Korg fan, so maybe this is actually JUST what I'm looking for! *BoUnCeS*
                            A dead astronaut in space...

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                            • #44
                              Of course, "sounds better" is personal. But if you hear that digital sheen in the PODs I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the Vox - I mean, the Sweetwater demos would have told you that already. It has a more analog/diode type distortion sound to it, and the "half-distorted" sounds are so much better to my ears. I don't know if there's an analog element to the distortion but it sounds much more like a Radial pedal type distortion with a bit of tube sheen to it, rather than a digital distortion.



                              By the way, the Zoom units don't have that digital sheen to my ears either, and the Zoom GT9.2tt is definitely worth looking at if you're shopping for a floor pedal with effects. Those modulation options with the pedal that goes up/down and sideways, are Those aren't as easy to find in stores but Music Go Round has a used one right now for 199.00 + 15.00 shipping. Something to consider But as far as sound quality, to my ears the current Vox still wins (the original VT still had this digital sheen to it but this new one - Plus or EX or whatever depending on model, is much better).
                              http://www.reverbnation.com/christianschulze

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                              • #45
                                Absolutely right "sounds better" is purely subjective, but I feel that I can trust your ears to an extent. I definitely remember a particularly bored day at work once when I sent you some crap that I'd recorded and you INSTANTLY said "Yea. Those guitars are POD." >.> hehe So, I don't take your recommendations lightly because I can tell you have a good ear. Plus, I listened to some of YOUR stuff and I can definitely say your guitar tracks trump mine by leaps and bounds! Speaking of which, when you record guitars (you, and anyone else who cares to say so), particularly distorted and overdriven tracks, do you use a modeller or mic'd amps?



                                Like an IDIOT (gah, I swear!), I sold ALL my amps and cabs - both guitar AND bass - when the last band I was in broke up. Big mistake. While I don't particularly expect to ever be in another band again (it's too much of a time sink, what with work, keeping up a household, significant other, etc etc) or play out live anywhere, I sure could've at least used the guitar amps and cabs for project studio recording... but my mindset at the time was, "Well, I have a POD. That'll do just fine." And, it does do "just fine" but I'm finding that my creativity is sometimes hampered by the less-than-stellar equipment that I own. I think I have squeezed just about everything out of my current POD that can possibly be squeezed, and I truly regret getting rid of that Bandit 112 Peavey combo amp I had. That would've been perfect for recording due to it's smaller size but relatively large sound. Damn, now I've just bummed myself out.
                                A dead astronaut in space...

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