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  • Video: Key & Peele: Dubstep

    This is just TOO funny:






    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kod1q39ddE
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    I saw this before, it is really funny! and I listen to dubstep.
    http://soundcloud.com/liliththekitten

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    • #3
      I must really be an old fart. The first time I heard a dubstep song, I didn't know what it was called but I liked it. I listened to some more - I think it was by "Figure" - and it sounded exactly the first song I heard. I left it alone and went back and listened to some more and it sounded like the first two or three songs. I am not sure why the songs all sounded the same, but perhaps it is due to my neural net having converged to a point where I just can't hear much difference.



      So what is it that differentiates one song in this style from another?
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      • #4
        that's a good skit, i must say that even my picky sense of humor very much enjoys Key & Peele. this skit in particular made me pause for massive laughter -






        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss







        as far as dubstep - i try to stay out of that business, surprisingly high number of dubstep producers in my medium sized midwestern town though. lots of sample packs out there for this genre i guess, none of them know much about synths...
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        • #5
          Dubstep's pretty old, 10 years I think? The brostep sound is big now* in the US, kinda reminds me of the way d'n'b/jungle went for a little while around 1998-2000 particularly in the US I think?



          *actually it's prob peaked a year or two ago and the backlash is in full effect.



          Ppl were saying the same stuff about d'n'b and trance 10+ years ago and then everyone moved on to hate electroclash.



          I remember first hearing dubstep around 2006 or so, one of the "This is Dubstep" compilations. I was "I will like this,I like me some dub and I like d'n'b and 2-step" and I put it on in the store and thought it was boring. (It was the old UK sound so it was pretty soft.) Then I was like, "How high do you have to be to find this interesting?" But I kept listening to dubstep now and then and after a while I "got it" and got into it.



          Burial is one artist I particularly like who's atypical dubstep and not brostep at all. I do like some Knife Party and even Skrillex though. :P



          The kind of dubsteppy music I make (sometimes) is ambient really, it just uses dubstep sounds.
          http://soundcloud.com/liliththekitten

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          • #6






            Quote Originally Posted by liliththekitten
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            *actually it's prob peaked a year or two ago and the backlash is in full effect.




            Yeah, it was never *hugely* popular here, if it wasn't for Skrillex a year ago no one would have heard of it, and it does half feel like the trend already came and went. The UK scene still doesn't have a lot of those harsh Skrillex lines, the new trend seems to be "mix-and-match", like drum and bass producers making an electro house track that happens to have a dubstep drop for the hell of it.



            The first I heard of the D&B genre was the ragga jungle stuff, which I found rather interesting. Never made it over here much. The darker almost industrial styles seemed to be what the US wanted in their short lived fad. The jazzy / ambient D&B style isn't even spun much as far as I can tell, although an LTJ Bukem show I went to was well attended.
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            • #7






              Quote Originally Posted by liliththekitten
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              Dubstep's pretty old, 10 years I think? The brostep sound is big now* in the US, kinda reminds me of the way d'n'b/jungle went for a little while around 1998-2000 particularly in the US I think?



              *actually it's prob peaked a year or two ago and the backlash is in full effect.



              Ppl were saying the same stuff about d'n'b and trance 10+ years ago and then everyone moved on to hate electroclash.



              I remember first hearing dubstep around 2006 or so, one of the "This is Dubstep" compilations. I was "I will like this,I like me some dub and I like d'n'b and 2-step" and I put it on in the store and thought it was boring. (It was the old UK sound so it was pretty soft.) Then I was like, "How high do you have to be to find this interesting?" But I kept listening to dubstep now and then and after a while I "got it" and got into it.



              Burial is one artist I particularly like who's atypical dubstep and not brostep at all. I do like some Knife Party and even Skrillex though. :P



              The kind of dubsteppy music I make (sometimes) is ambient really, it just uses dubstep sounds.




              Wow, this post makes me feel so old and ignorant. I recognise so few of these genres and artists.
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              • #8






                Quote Originally Posted by BonsoWonderDog
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                Wow, this post makes me feel so old and ignorant. I recognise so few of these genres and artists.




                Yeah, me too.



                Seems like 17 sub-genres of electronic music come and go before I've heard of two or three of them.



                If you want to see something ridiculous (and it IS ridiculous), look at all of the electronic music genres listed on this Wikipedia page:



                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...c_music_genres



                I mean, is there anyone who can tell the difference between "darkcore jungle" and "hardcore jungle?"
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                • #9






                  Quote Originally Posted by BonsoWonderDog
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                  Wow, this post makes me feel so old and ignorant. I recognise so few of these genres and artists.




                  To be helpful...



                  This is Burial.




                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MigURCQQA0





                  This is Knife Party (dubstep from ex-members of the famous D&B / electronic something collective Pendulum).




                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSemARaqGqE





                  I am not sure how you could even consider these two tunes the same genre. (Though to be fair, Burial is far more unclassifiable, kind of more like an ambientish two-step to me.)
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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by BonsoWonderDog
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                    Wow, this post makes me feel so old and ignorant. I recognise so few of these genres and artists.




                    That's because now days, entire genres come and go overnight, based around some completely narrow tiny thing. It's almost not worth finding out, unless you are into it. Just wait a few moments, and the genre is gone.
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                    • #11






                      Quote Originally Posted by soundwave106
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                      Yeah, it was never *hugely* popular here, if it wasn't for Skrillex a year ago no one would have heard of it, and it does half feel like the trend already came and went. The UK scene still doesn't have a lot of those harsh Skrillex lines, the new trend seems to be "mix-and-match", like drum and bass producers making an electro house track that happens to have a dubstep drop for the hell of it.



                      The first I heard of the D&B genre was the ragga jungle stuff, which I found rather interesting. Never made it over here much. The darker almost industrial styles seemed to be what the US wanted in their short lived fad. The jazzy / ambient D&B style isn't even spun much as far as I can tell, although an LTJ Bukem show I went to was well attended.




                      true.



                      The first time I heard jungle/d'n'b was in '94. Ragga was a favorite and there was ragga, atmospheric, dark, hardcore, etc sounds often all mashed up, often in the same track. At the time,jungle sounded like sheer sonic chaos to me, along with the Amens, etc,and I loved it... I'd been a bit of a hardcore fan before that but this sounded like something else. I think d'n'b got steadily boring after that, atmo was trendy for a while (esp after those d'n'b Everything But the Girl remixes) and I really liked it but Bukem kept doing past its sell-by date and it wasn't as good really. The American tunes I like were from Liquid Sky artists and I'm not sure how well they held up.



                      also the dark hardcore from around '92-93, which evolved into jungle is a favorite, I think it was some of the best dance music ever.
                      http://soundcloud.com/liliththekitten

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                      • #12






                        Quote Originally Posted by keybdwizrd
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                        Yeah, me too.



                        Seems like 17 sub-genres of electronic music come and go before I've heard of two or three of them.



                        If you want to see something ridiculous (and it IS ridiculous), look at all of the electronic music genres listed on this Wikipedia page:



                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...c_music_genres






                        There's also Ishkur's guide. It's not all accurate or 100% serious and it hasn't been updated for 10-12 years but it is a good read:



                        http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/music.swf





                        Metal is similarly ridiculous with its subgenres though not to quite the same degree:



                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subgenres



                        Metal fans will be able to tell the difference for the most part... I can... mostly... though outsiders might say they all sound the same. (I can't imagine anyone mistaking Death for Glam Metal though.)





                        >I mean, is there anyone who can tell the difference between "darkcore jungle" and "hardcore jungle?"



                        Yes.



                        I kind of mentioned it above. Darkcore was dark hardcore and a predecessor to jungle. Hardcore is jungle with hardcore sounds, can be uplifting, can be dark. So there is overlap between the two, as there with other kinds of music.
                        http://soundcloud.com/liliththekitten

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                        • #13






                          Quote Originally Posted by mate_stubb
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                          That's because now days, entire genres come and go overnight, based around some completely narrow tiny thing. It's almost not worth finding out, unless you are into it. Just wait a few moments, and the genre is gone.




                          It's actually slowed down and has been since the mid-90's or so. It was crazy for awhile. House/techno-influenced dance music (I don't like to say "EDM") was new in the late 80s/early 90's, the rave scene was going big and was also a movement of youthful rebellion ...all of that has quieted down by now. The last big development since 2000 was dubstep and that's old.
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                          • #14
                            I feel the over compartmentalization speaks volumes about the over-importantifying in our stupified civilization. It is like we are over complicating the littlest detail as a means of finding self importance of anything or everything. Technically speaking, there is probably 50 gazillion levels of color and invisible color in a rainbow, but do we tear out each thread of color in red and rename it to be something bigger than it is: a tiny part of a whole? No, it's just red. (well, paint companies might hahahaa)



                            Where any idiot can add whatever repetatively looped sample and they want and call it a new gerne is like if doctors spray painted virus cells and gave them a new name.



                            People used to make a quality SONG that stood on its own, was remembered for the song... now people dump buckets of noisey phlem into a "gerne" and think that is where it is at. But, it is forgotten seconds after the play button was pressed and replaced with the next phlem spillage.

                            Rather than creating new "genres", people should try making great music. Just a thought.

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                            • #15






                              Quote Originally Posted by wwwjd
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                              People used to make a quality SONG that stood on its own, was remembered for the song... now people dump buckets of noisey phlem into a "gerne" and think that is where it is at. But, it is forgotten seconds after the play button was pressed and replaced with the next phlem spillage.




                              That's what folks like to do, compartmentalize and divide into scenes and factions so they can pretend they are cool and pretend the rest of the world sucks.



                              Though to be honest these days a lot of stuff is released as "indie" that would've been in some bastardized pigeonholed scene before... in electronic music the one-upmanship posing that leads to scene-naming has slowed down a bit. The Internet has made scenes a bit sillier. Genres now are necessary mainly for the mood someone wants to evoke, so for instance someone wanting to do some yoga to some relaxing soundscapes doesn't turn on a station and get Merzbow.
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