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  • Software Sampler to replace Hardware Sampler (Motif ES)

    Hey guys....



    I am planning on replacing my hardware rompler/sampler (Yamaha Motif) with a software base solution. Any recommendation(s)?



    I need some nice synthy stuff, piano and strings basically. I have a motif ES, which isn't cutting it for me (because editing wave tracks aren't as forgiving). And given all the high quality samples and plenty of disk space...i would like to go the software route for my home based studio.



    I would like also like to stick with a single brand to avoid any compatibility issues. It does not have to top of the line, but something that would come close to a hardware/do-all kind of sampler like my motif ES. I play guitar, so i will mostly use the keyboards as a background.



    Any suggestions?



    Thanks so much.
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  • #2
    Goliath, Nexus, SampleTank are the first things that come to mind to have you check into. If you are a Cubase user, then the stuff in HALion Sonic is supposed to be derived from the Motif sound set.
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    • #3
      There's a lot of Juno di thrown in there as well in Halion Sonic. There's several verbatim patches. I just received Goliath in the mail today. Also there's omnisphere for synth stuff. Nexus for dance though.
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      • #4
        I was gonna mention "ask Metro" - lol. But I wasn't sure if you'd had time to take Goliath around the block yet.

        +100 on Omnisphere. It just doesn't do bread and butter basics real well. Synth stuff is awesome. Acoustic Guitars to die for.

        I'm waiting myself for Met to clue us in on Goliath though. It's looking promising from the demos I've heard.
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        • #5






          Quote Originally Posted by midinut
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          Goliath, Nexus, SampleTank are the first things that come to mind to have you check into. If you are a Cubase user, then the stuff in HALion Sonic is supposed to be derived from the Motif sound set.




          Thank you, Sir. I think you pretty nailed it for me. I do use Cubase 5. I forgot they do have HAlion sampler. I wasn't aware HALion was derived from Motif. I have to dig deeper into this. I really think all Hardware manufactures should offer a software based solution for studios. Hardware should only be used live only. Line6 is doing great in that arena offering POD amp models in software plugin fashion as well.



          Thanks once again.
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          • #6
            If you just have HALion Sonic SE that comes with Cubase you may want to spring for the upgrade to the full version. I am still running Cubase 5.5 so I'm still using the included HALion One. But even it has some distinctively Motif flavored sounds (ie Expressive Flute, S90ES Piano, etc). I'm waiting on a new laptop to get here before I upgrade mine to Cubase 7. Med has me jonesin' for Goliath now too though.
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            • #7
              Thanks midinut. I will have to dig deeper. Cubase 5 did seem to come with HALion One. I will definitely upgrade to the full verison and give it a try. It's been a while since I am getting into music. I had no idea Cubase 7 was even out. Ah gotta love technology...
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              • #8
                I have halion sonic and it's quite nice, but be warned, it's in that "band in box" vein in that it's mostly a GM upgrade. The built in VA engine is sweeeeeeet, but you'll find it lacking.



                That's mainly why I decided to pony up for Goliath. 40 gigs and it's quite close to what a ROMpler can do. Check out some of the youtube vids on it.



                But once it's all installed, audio and full report TBA soon
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                • #9
                  I dont really want a band in a box. Expansion capability and new libraries would be nice to have. I am surprised HAlion wouldn't offer something like that (depending on what i need or genre i compose). (350 some voices/patches like the motif would be the ticket).



                  I haven't heard of Goliath before, but i have been out of touch with music for a while. Few years back it was Kontakt & Battery that was hot in the market...maybe things have changed.



                  Do let us know how Goliath works for you. I will look it up and do some research as well.



                  Thanks.
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                  • #10
                    if you go to soundsonline.com you can browse their entire catalog. each packaged item is like it's own expansion card. orchestral, choral, piano ect. At worst, you may just have to mix and match between vendors.



                    have no fear, will update !
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                    • #11
                      Doing some research on the web, I dont think there is any all-in-one software solution out there to replace a hardware rompler. Propeller head's Reason comes close, but i am not a fan of NN-XT sampler and libraries. The synths on reason are very nice though.



                      I think now I will have to break it down into categories and fill in the blank...and empty my bank in the process. I am now about to get into hole i will never be able to get out of



                      So here are the main categories i may need:



                      Piano : ___________

                      Orchestral: ___________

                      Synths: ___________

                      World/Ethnic Instruments:_________





                      Thank you.
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                      • #12






                        Quote Originally Posted by Metrosonus
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                        if you go to soundsonline.com you can browse their entire catalog. each packaged item is like it's own expansion card. orchestral, choral, piano ect. At worst, you may just have to mix and match between vendors.



                        have no fear, will update !




                        Here's the direct link: http://www.soundsonline.com/Goliath



                        I am reviewing it now. It cost $495. Not a bad deal if you get the whole 9 yards.
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                        • #13
                          How about this package: http://www.soundsonline.com/Complete...ers-Collection



                          I wonder how much space complete collection pacakge would require. Goliath only cost only $162 with the package. (as it mentions: All product selections are discounted at over 67% off! ) lol
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                          • #14
                            I get an educational discount and I'm only going to get silk next and maybe orchestra.
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                            • #15
                              good for you. Goliath seems to be a nice overall package. I might get all the packages for $999 if i do, seems like a great value package. You never know when you need what.



                              Let us now how you like Goliath sample bank...



                              Thanks.
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