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  • AMD FX-8350 or Intel i5-3570K for DAW

    edit: This solves most everything

    games playable with with built-in Intel HD4000/25000 graphics:

    http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/in...033387.htm



    HD video play/editing depends on CPU more than GPU.



    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

    DAW music production software benchmarks:

    http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm



    "Those are PassMark benchmark scores. PassMark is a benchmarking software which runs the CPU through many stress tests like

    read/write operations, math calculations, and graphics processing. People who run PassMark can submit the score they got with

    their processor so those charts are showing the average submitted scores for each processor. I wouldn't read into the overclocked processor charts much because they include mild overclocks as well as extreme overclocks, and there's no way to know how overclocked the processor was when it got the given score. If you really want to see specific scores, you can click a processor from the list and it will show the last 5 submitted scores along with information like RAM, measured speed, hard drive, graphics card, etc."

  • #2
    Check the computer setup and system configuration forum at kvraudio.com



    You are correct that you will not be able to get everything you want. Lenovo's Y580 has what you want but is a few hundred more than you want to spend. I would consider Lenovo's consumer grade laptops first.
    Gribs

    ...Music can be used to stimulate mass emotion, while mathematics cannot; and musical incapacity is recognized (no doubt rightly) as mildly discreditable, whereas most people are so frightened of the name of mathematics that they are ready, quite unaffectedly, to exaggerate their own mathematical stupidity.

    G.H. Hardy in A Mathematician's Apology (London 1941).

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    • #3
      edit. thanks

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      • #4
        edit: This solves most everything

        games playable with with built-in Intel HD4000/25000 graphics:

        http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/in...033387.htm



        HD video play/editing depends on CPU more than GPU.



        http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

        http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

        http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

        DAW music production software benchmarks:

        http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm



        "Those are PassMark benchmark scores. PassMark is a benchmarking software which runs the CPU through many stress tests like read/write operations, math calculations, and graphics processing. People who run PassMark can submit the score they got with their processor so those charts are showing the average submitted scores for each processor. I wouldn't read into the overclocked processor charts much because they include mild overclocks as well as extreme overclocks, and there's no way to know how overclocked the processor was when it got the given score. If you really want to see specific scores, you can click a processor from the list and it will show the last 5 submitted scores along with information like RAM, measured speed, hard drive, graphics card, etc."

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        • #5
          hard to take all that in...



          i7 chips are multi threading

          on the whole..i5 chips are NOT...there are a couple of exceptions for some H.P. laptops.
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          • #6






            Quote Originally Posted by cresshead
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            i7 chips are multi threading

            on the whole..i5 chips are NOT...




            Does this have any implications for running some VSTs in a live situation?

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            • #7
              multithreading gives you virtual cores so yeah if the D.A.W and it's VST/AU plugins support multithreading you can run more stuff...



              for example makes a dualcore into a quadcore cpu when multthreading is up and running in the app/vst plugin

              i7 quadcore will get 8 threads when multithreading

              i5 quadcore has no multithreading so only 4 cores max.

              h.p. do a i5 dualcore cpu for a few laptops, that DOES have multithreading so will get 4 cores from the dual cpu
              http://www.cresshead.comhttp://soundcloud.com/cresshead-1Korg Volca Bass, Logic Pro 9, Arturia Mini Brute, Roland sh-01 - korg electribe emx - Blofeld - Nanozwerg - yamaha RX5 - CS1X - Korg DDD1 - Trackman -ipad3

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              • #8
                FL Studio is supposed to be multi-threaded so I would say go i7. Also I should mention to the OP that you can easily get started using just FL Studio alone with no purchased VSTs.
                Gribs

                ...Music can be used to stimulate mass emotion, while mathematics cannot; and musical incapacity is recognized (no doubt rightly) as mildly discreditable, whereas most people are so frightened of the name of mathematics that they are ready, quite unaffectedly, to exaggerate their own mathematical stupidity.

                G.H. Hardy in A Mathematician's Apology (London 1941).

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                • #9
                  Having 2 threads per core is Hyperthreading, an Intel technology. Multithreading occurs at an OS level and/or application level. Normally there is one thread per core. Hyperthreading is sort of a hack to run two threads per core.
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                  • #10
                    edit

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                    • #11
                      The mobile versions of the i5 and i7 CPUs (ie, what they put into laptops, cpu model number ends in "M") are significantly less powerful than the non-mobile CPUs. Don't buy a laptop if you want a powerful system. Laptops are for portability, not speed/power. Buy a desktop PC (or rackmount server if you need it for gigging). If you need a small form factor, you can get a case such as what Shuttle makes.



                      The i5's don't have hyper-threading. The i7's do, and most E3 Xeons do. (The E3 Xeons will work in most i7 motherboards). This doesn't mean the i5's are not good chips.



                      If you don't plan on overclocking the CPU, don't waste money on an unlocked CPU (model number ends in "K" such as 3550K). Buy the cheaper non-K version. You can also save money buying a motherboard with a Q77 or H77 chipset, instead of Z77.



                      If you plan to add a video card, then you don't need the integrated graphics (GPU). Buy a chip without the GPU, or better yet, one of the E3 Xeons (which essentially gives you i7 power at i5 prices).



                      Assuming you plan to re-use your current monitor, mouse, and keyboard -- will not overclock, will use integrated graphics. and you have someone to assemble the system, here are the parts I would buy with that $650:



                      Motherboard = $88 with shipping

                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157304



                      CPU (with fan) = $300

                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116501



                      16gb RAM = $50 (You can later add another 16gb for a total of 32)

                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231489



                      hard drive - $159 with promo code BLKFRIDAY50

                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147189



                      case - $45, comes with $15 gift card

                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042



                      power supply - $40, comes with $10 gift card

                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171031



                      Use the gift cards and remaining dollars to buy a cheap blueray drive like:

                      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136252



                      This will be a powerful, high-end system.

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                      • #12
                        sslowar it all depend on what you're trying to accomplish. i always recommend people get more power than they need to remain somewhat future proof. other than that do you need mobility ? win 8 touch functionality ? etc.



                        when it comes to laptops i7 quad core mobile chips are so much more than powerful than i5s. over clocking is a little extreme for laptops with over heating a real concern and may be unnecessary with a decent i7. hd 4000 intel integrated graphics are fine for daw work but not ideal for gaming.



                        laptops aren't ideal for gaming in general. the high end discreet graphics available in some machines seem pretty expensive. the price/performance ratio is much better with desktops for gamers and power users



                        i don't have any specific recommendations for black friday there's just too many options, price points and everything to consider

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                        • #13
                          I want to make music outside of the house sometimes. Wish they made something portable in between a laptop and desktop.

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                          • #14






                            Quote Originally Posted by sslow235comp
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                            Wish they made something portable in between a laptop and desktop.




                            You can get a micro ATX motherboard and case. But you still need to attach a mouse, keyboard, and monitor, and run it off of A.C. power.



                            Or you can go even smaller with mini ITX:



                            case and power supply

                            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112360



                            motherboard

                            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131841

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                            • #15
                              I'm suprised there aren't better laptops with bigger parts making them thicker and heavier which won't make them much less carryable compared to screen size.

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